So how accurate is the 'science' of the qur'an?

It is well known that the qur'an is full of errors, lies and inaccuracies. In being fair about this one can argue that the Bible, Holy Scriptures, the boo of Mormon all are guilty of the same problem. The qur'an is on a pedestal all alone in being inaccurate and full of ridiculous claims. Sam Hindu has a good article on just three of these 'scientific' errors that can be found in the qur'an. One other problem with the qur'an is that the majority of muslims take the qur'an literally with no questions asked asked. If it is in the qur'an, it is so because mohammad said so. After all, he got most of his 'knowledge' from allah. So please, read on to learn what the qur'an has to say about the earth, sun, thunder and lightning. Be careful not to slip and fall into that 'slimy puddle.'

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Scientific Errors In Islam

By Jyoti Prakash Mitra

Scientific Errors of the Quran

We will start by pointing out the Quran's scientific, historical, and grammatical errors, namely those which deviate from the well-known rules of Arabic grammar. Muslims believe that the inimitably of the Quran is found in the eloquence and excellence of the Arabic language in which it is written; thus, it is impossible for them to imagine that the language of the Quran is full of errors. First, however, we will be content to allude to three scientific errors pertaining to the sun, earth and the two phenomenon of thunder and lighting.

The Sun

In plain words, the Quran says that one of the righteous men of Gods servants saw the sun set in a certain place of the earth in particular a well full of water and mud. There, this man found some people. Let us read what is recorded in the Quran (chapter “the Cave”, verse 86),

“When he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhul-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness” (Surah 18:86).

Lest I failed to understand what the Quran meant by these strange words, I referred to the famous students of the Quran as well as to the ancient scholars. I discovered that all of them concurred with this rendering and said that Muhammad's friends inquired about the sunset and that he gave them that answer. All the scholars such as the Baydawi, Jalalan, and Zamakhshari confirm it. The Zamakhshari remarks in his book, “the Kash-shaf”,

“Abu Dharr (one of Muhammad's close companions) was with Muhammad during the sunset. Muhammad asked him: Do you know, O Abu Dharr where this sets? He answered: God and His apostle know better. Muhammad said: It sets in a spring of slimy water” (3rd Edition, Volume 2 p. 743,1987).

In his book, “The Lights of Revelation” (p. 399), the Baydawi indicates,

“The sun sets in a slimy spring; that is, a well which contains mud. Some of the readers of the Quran read it, …a hot spring, thus the spring combines the two descriptions. It was said that Ibn Abbas found Muawiya reading it (as) hot. He told him, It is muddy.

Muawiya sent to Kab al-Ahbar and asked him, Where does the sun set? He said in water and mud and there were some people. So he agreed with the statement of ibn al-Abbas. And there was a man who composed a few verses of poetry about the setting of the sun in the slimy spring.”

The Jalalan (p. 251) says that the setting of the sun is in a well which contains a murky mud. We found the same interpretation and text in the Tabaris commentaries (p. 339) as well as in “Concise Interpretation of the Tabari” (p. 19 of part 2) in which he remarks that the well in which the sun sets “contains lime and murky mud”.

These are the comments of the pillars of Islam and the intimate companions of Muhammad such as Ibn Abbas and Aba Dharr. Also it is obvious from the Quran (chapter 36:38) that the sun ran then settled down. The verse says:

“And the sun runs on into a resting place.”

On page 585, the Baydawi says,

“The sun runs in its course to a certain extent then it stops. It is similar to the passengers repose after he completes his journey” (refer also the book of al-Itqan by the Suyuti, p. 242).

This is the story of the setting of the sun in the well and its course as a passenger!

The Phenomena of Thunder and Lightning

It is common knowledge, as scientists teach, that thunder is a sound caused by the impact between electrical charges found in the clouds. Yet Muhammad, the prophet of Muslims, has a different opinion in this matter. He claims that the thunder and the lightning are two of Gods angels exactly like Gabriel!

In the Quran there is a chapter under the title of “Thunder” in which it is recorded that the thunder praises God. We might think that it does not mean that literally because thunder is not a living being although, spiritually speaking, all of nature glorifies God.

The expounders of the Quran and its chief scholars, however, insist that Muhammad said that the thunder is an angel exactly like the angel Gabriel. In his commentary (p. 329), the Baydawi comments on verse 13 of chapter of the Thunder,

“Ibn Abbas asked the apostle of God about the thunder. He told him, It is an angel who is in charge of the cloud, who (carries) with him swindles of fire by which he drives the clouds.”

In the commentary of the Jalalan (p. 206), we read about this verse:

“The thunder is an angel in charge of the clouds to drive them.”

Not only ibn Abbas asked Muhammad about the essence of the thunder, but the Jews did too. In the book, “al-Itqan” by Suyuti (part 4, p. 230), we read the following dialogue:

“On the authority of Ibn Abbas, he said the Jews came to the prophet (peace be upon him) and said, Tell us about the thunder. What is it? He told them:

It is one of Gods angels in charge of the clouds. He carries in his hand a swindle of fire by which he pricks the clouds to drive them to where God has ordered them. They said to him, What is this sound that we hear? He said: (It is) his voice (The angels voice).”

The same incident, the question of the Jews and Muhammad's answer are mentioned by most scholars. Refer, for instance, to al-Sahih al-Musnad Min Asbab Nuzul al-Ayat (stories related to the verses of Quran, p. 11) and al-Kash-shaf by the Imam al-Kamakhshari (part 2, pp. 518, 519).

He reiterates the same story and the same words of Muhammad. Thus, the incident is in vogue among all Muslim scholars, and the story and the dialogue between Muhammad and the Jews is well-known.

We have mentioned what the Baydawi, Jalalan, Zamakhshari, Suyuti, and ibn Abbas have said. We do not know (among the ancient scholars) any who are more famous than these. Concerning lighting, Muhammad affirms that it is an angel like the thunder and like Gabriel and Michael.

On page 230 of the above references, Suyuti alludes to it. Also on page 68 of part 4 of the “Itqan”, the Suyuti records for us the names of the angels, which are: “Gabriel, Michael, Harut, Marut, the Thunder and the Lightning (He said) that the lightning has four faces.”

The Suyuti listed all these under the sub-title, “The names of Gods Angels”. He also indicated that Muhammad said that the lightning is the tail end of an angel whose name is Rafael (refer to part 4, p. 230 of the Itqan).

The Earth

Several thousand years ago, the Holy Bible clearly recorded that the earth is round and that it is hung on nothing.

“It is He who sits above the circle of the earth” (Isa. 40:22).

“He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing” (Job 26:7).

Yet, the Quran challenges these established scientific facts. In many places, it alludes to the fact that the earth is flat and its mountains are like poles which create a balance so that the Earth does not tilt. Let us consider what the Quran says about the Earth:

In chapter 88:17,20, it is recorded,

“Will they not regard the camels how they are created…and the Earth how it is spread?”

In page 509, the Jalalan says,

“In his phrase, how it is spread, he denotes that the earth is flat. All the scholars of Islamic law agree upon this. It is not round as the physicists claim.”

The Quranic teaching is obvious from the comment of Jalalan that “the earth is flat and not round as the scientists claim”. What made Jalal al-Din say so is that the Quran hints in many chapters that the earth is flat(refer to 19:6, 79:30, 18:7, and 21:30). Also the Quran indicates that:

“We have placed in the earth firm hills lest it quake so as not to sway and hurt people” (21:31).

Scholars who agree upon the meaning of this verse believe as the Jalalan states (pp. 270-271),

“God has founded firm mountains on earth lest it shake people.”

On page 429, al-Baydawi says,

“God has made firm mountains on earth lest it sway people and quake. He also made heaven as a ceiling and kept it from falling down!”

The Zamakhshari agrees with the above authors and reiterates the same words (refer to Zamakhshari part 3, p. 114).

In the Quran (chapter 50:7), we find another verse which carries the same meaning,

“And the earth have we spread out, and have flung firm hills therein” (Surah Qaf: 7).

This is accompanied by the same comment by the above Muslim scholars (refer to Jalalan, p. 437; Baydawi, p. 686, Tabari, p. 589, and Zamakhshari, part 4, p. 381). All of them assure us that “if it were not for these unshakable mountains, the earth would slip away.”

Zamakhshari, the Baydawi and the Jalalan say: “God has built heaven without pillars but He placed unshakable mountains on Earth lest it tilts with people.” Concerning chapter 50:7, the Suyuti says that scholars indicate that “Qaf is a mountain which encompasses the entire earth” (refer to Itqan, part 3, p. 29). Qaf is an Arabic L like K.

These are the comments of the ancient Muslim scholars word for word. Even some Saudi scholars wrote a book a few years ago to disprove the spherical aspect of the earth and they claimed that it is a myth, agreed with the above mentioned scholars, and said we must believe the Quran and reject the spherical aspect of the earth.

It is also well-known that the Quran proclaims that there are seven earths, not just one (refer to the commentary of the Jalalan, p. 476, al-Baydawi, p. 745 as they interpret chapter 61:12, Surah Divorce: 1 2).

It is very clear that the sun does not traverse the heaven and set down in a murky, muddy well, or slimy water, or a place which contains both of them as the Baydawi, Zamakhshari, and the Quran remark.

Nor is the earth flat and the mountains the pillars and the towerings which prevent the earth from moving as the Quran and the scholars said. Nor is there a mountain which encompasses the whole earth, nor are there seven earths.

Neither is the lightning an angel whose name is Rafael, nor is the thunder an angel. It never happened that the angel Gabriel inspired Muhammad to write a complete chapter about his friend the angel thunder! The thunder and lightning are natural phenomena and not Gods angels like Michael and Gabriel as the prophet of Islam claims.

Original article is here.

Was mohammed a miracle man?

It is taught in some schools in the Middle East that the qur'an was mohammed's only 'miracle.' So, if that is the case then what a rotten miracle. But is this even true? Most muslims in the islamic world read the qur'an out of a sense of duty to earn points, or ‘hasanat’. This suppossedly helps them earn their frequent flyer miles to help them get into paradise. I know alot of Christians who were led to believe that good deeds and reading the Bible was their ticket to heaven.


Sam Hindu helps sort out this nonsense about mohammed being such a wonderous miracle man. After reading this one can see and understand that mohammed was nothing more than a perverted pedophile and a violent individual. This is fairly long and please read through the entire article. It should help clear up that this man was nothing more than a thug with a lot of power who found human life very cheap and easy to dispose of.

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SOME TIMES BY SAM HINDU

Allah: Mohammed had no miracles
By Sam Hindu

Allah made it clear in the Quran that he sent no miracles with Mohammed, neither in his Quran nor in his hadith. Would this stop Muslims from claiming that there are miracles in the Quran and sunna? I doubt it!


The Quran is the Muslims’ most read book yet it is the least understood. Muslims read the Quran to earn ‘hasanat’, which are the Islamic good deeds that help the Muslim go to paradise. It is the process of reading the Quran that counts whereas the process of understanding is just a bonus. This reward system is fair and should be considered a sign of Allah’s generosity because understanding the Quran is not an easy task; fourteen centuries on and Muslims still do not agree on its understanding! This is hardly surprising since the proper understanding of the Quran is only known to Allah and may be a handful of Arabs (1), which makes you wonder why bother writing it at all.


In my time, schools in the Middle East used to teach that Mohammed’s only miracle was the Quran. It was the language of the Quran which was in mind; the claims about the scientific miracles were nonexistent. That remained to be the standard education in schools throughout the Middle East until about the 1970s. Of course, nobody ever gave a convincing explanation why the language of the Quran was considered a miracle but it doesn’t take much to brainwash the children to believe such claims,
after all, the Quran does look like a weird book to learn or read.


After the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood and their alliance with Saudi Arabia, Muslims now attribute thousands of miracles to Mohammed. There are numerous organizations, all generously funded, with very aggressive programs for the purpose of spreading the concept of miracles associated with Mohammed. This massive multibillion dollar project is the Islamic world’s contribution to science, spreading ignorance through lies and pseudo research. By making their claims, the Muslim scholars deliver a pre emptive strike against any criticism to Islam. Their strategy is to cover up the areas where Islam is clearly vulnerable and present them to the ordinary reader as miracles in disguise.


This article highlights some unmistakeable assertions from Islam’s highest authority, Allah, that Mohammed had no miracles at all. To the Muslims, this should be the ultimate answer to those untiring groups who go around spreading the myths that Islam has miracles.


The Arabs demanded a miracle from Mohammed


Mohammed’s twenty three years career as a prophet is usually divided into two distinct phases: The Meccan phase and the Medina phase. It was in Mecca where the Arabs felt free to debate Mohammed and ask him whatever questions they had in mind about his claims. Mohammed was stunned by the many questions put to him by intellectuals like Omar Ibn Hisham (2) and Al Nadr Ibn Al Harith. Those men exposed the real clueless and speechless Mohammed who received no divine support. Abandoned by Allah, Mohammed became depressed (3) as he frequently failed to give answers. He used to go home and spend days or weeks thinking of those questions only to come up with odd answers that earned him the title ‘the madman’ (4). The typical example was when they asked him about the spirit; the Arabs expected an answer of some kind from a man who claims to communicate directly with God. Mohammed was speechless and no divine inspirations came to his help when it was most needed. It took him days or weeks of deep thinking to say this: “the spirit is something Allah knows about” which is hardly an answer worth waiting for.

017:85 they ask you concerning the Spirit. Say: “The spirit is something for my god; you are given only a little knowledge”.


Myths and stories of the past were part of the Arabs’ culture; Mohammed was particularly obsessed with the stories of the prophets sent by Allah in ancient times and used to tell those stories to the Arabs of Mecca with the hope they believe his claims of being a prophet himself. The Arabs were not impressed and rejected his claims. They even reminded him that Allah was keen to equip all his past prophets with miracles as signs of authenticity, a pattern that was never broken in the past. They insisted that Mohammed must show them a miracle in order for them to believe his claims. Of course, Mohammed didn’t.


The Arabs were so eager to see a miracle that when Mohammed revealed verse 34:9 (5) threatening them with a list of punishments, they asked him to go for it and ask his Allah and execute those threats (6) or at least perform some of those spectacular acts that lie beyond humans’ reach. Of course, Allah didn’t.


After his migration to Medina in 622 AD, Mohammed seized power and had no interest or time for debates; the sword did it all for him. It is ironic that after thirteen years of preaching in Mecca, Mohammed recruited only a handful of followers while the Medina Arabs converted to Islam overnight, no debates and no questions asked!


Mohammed’s failure to show a miracle was reported extensively in the Quran along with some of the most absurd excuses that defy common sense. Let us have a look at only some of those verses that the Muslims read every day but never understand.


1) Verse 17:59


“And We refrain from sending the signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror.”


In this verse17:59, Allah declares that He decided to depart from his old practice of sending miracles with prophets because the former generations did not believe in them. Now (that is in the seventh century), He only uses miracles to terrify people (how kind!). This assertion, on its own, is clear enough to prove the point- Allah did not send miracles to Mohammed.


Just in case the Muslims do not get the point, Allah repeated the above message in many other verses. Please read on:


2) Verse 20:133

“They say: “Why does he not bring us a sign from his Lord?” Has not a Clear Sign come to them of all that was in the former Books of revelation?”


In this verse, Allah reminds the Arabs of what is reported in the holy books about the previous nations who received miracles but did not believe. In other words, Allah had enough and considers his past experience with the unbelievers as an excuse for not sending any more miracles in case the same thing happens again.


The Arabs of Mecca were understandably discontented about the above bizzare conclusion, which is repeated in many verses, that they would not believe because some former generations didn’t. This supposition is not only wrong but also contradicts some other Quranic claims made in other verses. Didn’t the Quran say that the magicians believed (7) Moses immediately? Therefore, Miracles worked in the past and produced some results.


More to the point, the prediction that the Arabs would not believe were completely wide of the mark. It didn’t take more than a few years for this verse, and many others like it, to be proved wrong. When Mohammed returned to Mecca as a conqueror, all those Arabs, whom Allah claimed would not believe, converted to Islam overnight, no miracles needed, just the might of the sword!


3) Verse 13:27


“The Unbelievers say: “Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?” Say: “Truly Allah leaves to go stray, whom He will and guides to Himself those who turn to Him in penitence”


In this verse, Allah gives a very strange, but honest, excuse. He says what is the point of sending a miracle? After all, it is up to Him to decide which people will go astray and which people will believe!


4) Verse 6:109


“They swear their strongest oaths by Allah, that if a sign came to them they would believe. Say: “the signs are in the power of Allah: but what will make you (Muslims) realise that if signs came, they will not believe.”?


This verse (6:109) reports that the Arabs swear by Allah’s name that if they see a miracle they would believe. This is a clear confirmation that the Arabs already believed in Allah, otherwise how do they swear by His name? Mohammed called the Arabs ‘the unbelievers’ because they did not believe in his claims. It appears from this verse that the Arabs were sincere and straight in their promise to believe if they see a miracle, so why not just send them a miracle?


The verse also states that Allah keeps those signs for himself, which is a very strange thing to do; what is the use of the signs if they were kept with Allah and never utilized?


After proudly reminding us that all miracles are with Him, Allah turns to the Muslims and asks them a question: “what makes you feel that the infidels would not believe if they see a miracle” We do not see the point behind that question or the difference would the answer make to Allah or to the readers of the Quran.


5) Verse 29:50


They say: “Why are not Signs sent down to him from his Lord?” Say: “The signs are indeed with Allah and I am indeed a clear Warner.”


The Quran repeats the claims that all the miracles are with Allah and confirms that He decided not to send any of them because, according to Ibn Katheer, he knew it would not make the unbelievers believe. The verse is basically another confirmation that Mohammed had no miracles (signs). The same logic is repeated in verses 6:37 and 13:7


6) Verse 6:37


“They say: “Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?” Say: “(Allah) hath certainly power to send down a sign: but most of them understand not”


The verse reports that the Arabs were suspicious of Mohammed’s authenticity because he had no signs. As an answer to the Arabs’ questions, the verse says that Allah is capable of sending signs if He wishes, which indicates that Allah did not wish to send one to Mohammed.


7) Verse 13: 7.


“And the Unbelievers say: “Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?” But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide”


In the above verse, Mohammed accepts the fact that he had no miracles and tries to justify such an odd position. He came up with the excuse that was only a guide, which was not a plausible excuse to the Arabs because they believed that all the past prophets were also guides to their nations but they all had miracles.


8) Verse 17: 93

“Or thou have a house adorned with gold, or thou mount a ladder right into the skies. No, we shall not even believe in thy mounting until thou send down to us a book that we could read.” Say: “Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- an apostle?”


In this verse 17:93, Mohammed makes an unequivocal admission that he had no miracles. It happened when the Arabs asked him to demonstrate for them one of a list of miracles they listed for him in this and the three preceding verses. His answer was clear and indisputable: I don’t have a miracle; I am only a human.


What about the Quranic Challenge?


Allah challenged all humans (Verses 2:23, 17:88) to produce a chapter that matches the Quran but nobody did. According to Muslims, this is an indication that the Quran is a miracle. This piece of information is known to all Muslims and would undoubtedly come to the minds of those who may read this article, hence the following comment:


The majority of Muslims do not know that the Internet is bursting with literature that mimics the Quran. Normally, no sane Arab could openly compose a work that mimics the Quran for the fear of death. However, the Internet provided a safe haven to those authors who are willing to take the challenge. Nevertheless, it is worth highlighting that the two greatest Arab poets, Al Maari and Al Mutanabbi, both composed their own Qurans albeit they were forced to withdraw their works and repent. Their Qurans have completely disappeared from history.


In the past, a renowned Islamic group called Al Mutazilla believed that although the Quran was the word of Allah but there was nothing spectacular about its style. The Meccan Arabs did not like the Quran and thought it was a poor kind of literature, which is why they thought Mohammed was mad. It was not unexpected for Mohammed to react by claiming that his work was the best in the world.


Mohammed was an Arab and the Arabs still react in a similar manner when in similar circumstances. It is still common in the Arabs’ culture for a person who produces a poor work to defend his product by saying “I challenge you and all your relatives to produce something similar”. Or even to swear in the name of Allah that his product is “the best product in the world”. On the other hand, people who produce works of high quality let it be literature or any form of art, do not makes such challenges. If the challenge verses mean anything they mean that the Arabs did not like the Quran. They are signs of weakness rather than signs of strength.


References:


1. Verse 3:7


“He it is Who has sent down to you the Book: In it are verses of established meanings; they are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its meanings, but no one knows its meanings except Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord:” and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.”


2. Omar Ibn Hisham was renowned of his encyclopaedic knowledge (father of knowledge) and recognised Mohammed was a liar. When Mohammed seized power, he reversed his nickname to ‘father of ignorance’ and tracked him, together with Al nadr Ibn Al Harith, and killed thim in the battle of Badr.


3. Verse 18:6 “Perhaps, you, would kill yourself (O Muhammad ) in grief, over their footsteps (for their turning away from you), because they do not believe this narration (the Quran)”


4. Verse 37:36 “And they said: “Are we going to abandon our gods for the sake of a mad poet?” and verse 44:14 “Then they had turned away from him ( Muhammad ) and said: “One taught (by a human being), a madman!”


5. Verse 34:9 See they not what is before them and what is behind them, of the heaven and the earth? If We will, We shall sink the earth with them, or cause a piece of the sky to fall upon them. Verily, in this is a sign for every faithful believer that turns to Allah.


6.Verses:


17:90 And they say: “We shall not believe in you, until you cause a spring to gush forth from the earth for us;


17:91 “Or you have a garden of date-palms and grapes, and cause rivers to gush forth in their midst abundantly;


17:92″Or you cause the heaven to fall upon us in pieces, as you have pretended, or you bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face;


17:93 “Or you have a house of adornable materials (like silver and pure gold, etc.), or you ascend up into the sky, and even then we will put no faith in your ascension until you bring down for us a Book that we would read.” Say (O Muhammad ): “Glorified be my Lord (Allah) above all that evil they (polytheists) associate with Him! Am I anything but a man, a Messenger?”


7. Verses 7:120 And the magicians fell down in prostration, 20:70, So the magicians fell down in prostration. They said, “We have believed in the Lord of Aaron and Moses.” 26:46 So the magicians fell down in prostration


8. Verse 2:23 “And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah , if you should be truthful”, ” and verse 17:88 “Say, “If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur’an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants”

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