Open Mosque Day in Southern California

Gary Fouse

This past Sunday was proclaimed Open Mosque Day in Southern California by the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California. Several mosques were open to the public for tours and presentations. A friend sent me this composite report from multiple persons who visited multiple mosques.


Sunday, October 27, was Open Mosque Day at twenty-two Mosques and Islamic Centers in Southern California. An invitation communique from the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California assured non-Muslims that “Muslims are happy to answer questions about their religion.”   Based on reports from those who visited the mosques, their hosts were very cordial.  The visitors were provided with refreshments, guided tours, and even question and answer sessions about the mosque and Islam in general. However the answers to ideological questions left more than a few visitors disappointed, and they felt their intelligence was insulted by the evasive answers.  Taqiyah – the art of deception to hide the shameful truth about Islam -- was on full display.

For those unfamiliar with this term, the Quranic reference to taqiyah is Surah 3:28:  ‘’Let believers not make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful – he that does has nothing to hope for from Allah – except in self-defense.”  The Arabic word for self-defense here is tuqah which means to guard against.  In Reliance of the Traveler, section r8.2 on Permissible Lying , it says, “When it is possible to achieve such an aim (as advancing Islam) by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible, and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory.  . . . But it is religiously more precautionary in all such cases to employ words that give a misleading impression, meaning to intend by one’s words something that is literally true, in respect to which one is not lying, while the outward purport of the words deceives the hearer . . . .”

As we will see below, the hosts at the mosques could not defend their ideology by telling the truth, so they resorted to lying.

The mosquing of America is proceeding at a rapid pace, underwritten by oil-rich countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar. The number of mosques and Islamic Centers almost doubled from 1,209 in 2000 to 2,106 in 2011, most of this increase occurring after Islamic terror attack on 9/11/01.   It is estimated that 80% of the new establishments  are sponsored (and guided) by the Wahhabi sect in Saudi Arabia, with their U.S.-based Muslim Brotherhood affiliates operating as the front-men for the projects.  (See Chapter 8 of “The Brotherhood, America’s Next Great Enemy” by Erick Stakelbeck .)  In 1995, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, boasted at an Islamic conference in Ohio, “We will conquer Europe, we will conquer America, not through the sword but through dawah [proselytizing].”  He has since been banned from entering the U.S.

But dawah and taqiyah seem to work only among the uninformed. Sooner or later, however, the converts to Islam will read the actual sacred texts of Islam and realize that the sweet words and deceptive answers to questions about Islam are not true.  It is reported that 75% of the converts to Islam leave the faith within a few years. (See:  http://somalifreethinkers.blogspot.com/2010/09/why-muslims-are-leaving-islam.html )   Muslims themselves acknowledge that over 6 million Muslims leave Islam every year.  Truth has a way of catching up with falsehood.

In view of the prevalent deception during Open Mosque Day, it is important to pay close attention to the answers given to the ideological issues that are of most concern to non-Muslims.  The following is a compilation of the issues discussed at various mosques along with the truth found in the recognized sacred Islamic texts.

1. Ritual demeaning of Jews and Christians by Muslims --  It is well-known that Muslims pray five times a day, but fewer people realize that within those prayers Muslim are required to recite Surah 1 of the Quran (Al-Fatihah) at least seventeen times a day.  (See Reliance of the Traveler, sections f8.17 and f10.2 and http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/21811 .)  Surah 1 contains the passage asking Allah to guide Muslims to the straight path, “not of those who have incurred Your wrath nor of those who have gone astray.”   Muhammad himself confirmed that the people referred to in the passage are the Jews and the Christians (See Bukhari, Vol. 1, Book 12, Number 749)  Further confirmation of the demeaning of Jews and Christians in Al-Fatihah is provided in Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Vol. 1, page 87, and in Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, page 2.
When asked about this verse, the imam of the Islamic Society of Orange County, Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, responded that you cannot take one verse alone to make a point about Islam because that verse may take things out of context. He added that the demeaning of Jews and Christians occurred only during a certain period of time when Muslims were fighting Jews and Christians   (If that is so, why do Muslims continue to pray their anti-Jewish and anti-Christian prayer seventeen times a day some 1400 years later?)  The Imam of the Lomita mosque acknowledged that the interpretation was true, but he said he was “not comfortable” with that interpretation.  (Sure, when Jews and Christians are asking, it would be difficult to be comfortable about a sacred text in the Quran demeaning them!)

Another verse in the Quran that demeans Jews and Christians is Surah 5:51: “Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.”  The same prohibition is reflected in Surahs 3:28, 3:118, and 9:23. Responding to this command, the imam of the Lomita mosque said that a lot of his friends were Jews and Christians and that Muslims respect all religions.  To prove  his point he called up some middle school students who parroted the same mantra.

Another offensive text in the Quran is found in Surahs 5:59 and 5:60 that says most Jews (People of the Book) are evil-doers and that Allah transformed them in to apes and swine and those that serve the devil.  The only response to this that could blurted out was that the quotation was “taken out of context.”  That phrase was repeated quite often during Open Mosque Day.

2. Worldwide violence against Christians -- The Quran instructs Muslims in Surah 8:60, “Muster against [the unbelievers] all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them who are unknown to you but known to Allah.”  The first part of this verse is also the motto of the Muslim Brotherhood, written in Arabic on their logo. During September and October of this year alone, there were over 800 Christian casualties at the hands of Muslims,  including Kenya (249, mostly Christian), Nigeria (240), Pakistan (196), Syria (82), and Iraq (23).  The Islamic terrorists in the Kenya shopping center attack in September quizzed their captives on the Shahada and other Islamic trivia questions to determine who they would spare and who they would murder.

When asked about this lethal persecution of Christians, Dr. Siddiqi of the Islamic Society of Orange County blamed the violence on old tribal customs in geographically isolated countries, not Islam.  The  Imam of the Lomita mosque said that Americans are not getting the real news. The Imam of the Anaheim mosque blamed Latinos for 42% of the terrorism in the U.S., and he said Muslims account for only 6%, but he didn’t cite his source.    Obviously, if the data sample goes back far enough in time, one could probably produce data that shows that most of the terror attacks in the U.S. were perpetrated by Native Americans (aka Indians).  Here is an article showing the ominous present-day trend of Islamic terror attacks around the world:

When asked about 9/11 the Imam of the Lomita mosque said that “we Muslims suffered the most. We were scared to go to work or school.”   (That “suffering” is compared with the violent deaths of three thousand innocent victims!)  The same Imam also asserted that many of the terrorists don’t even go to mosques and don’t have a connection with Islam.  He acknowledged that those doing the work of Allah would go to heaven, but “we may not agree with their methods.”  (Perhaps he should read the Quran-laced final instructions of Muhammad Atta to his fellow 9/11 hijackers. Atta was more versed in the Quran than most Muslims.  (See:  http://www.islamreform.net/new-page-108.htm )

3. Perverted definitions of good and evil -- Islamic Sharia Law is based on a concept that good and evil cannot be determined by the use of reason.  Instead, it is based solely on what Muhammad (and Allah) determined was good or evil.  (Reliance of the Traveler, Section a1.4)  The Quran states in Surah 33:21 that Muhammad is the “good example” for Muslims to follow, even though many of his acts would be criminal offenses in most civilized countries today.  This is why Muslim countries rejected the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights and adopted their own Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam in 1990. It states in Article 24, “All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Sharia.”

So when the Open Mosque Day hosts at the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City were confronted with some clearly evil acts perpetrated by Muslims, they could not respond with appropriate outrage.  Here are just a few of the situations they dodged:

· Muslim destruction of churches and temples – Host: That is taken out of context. The Prophet made sure churches and temples were not destroyed.  (Actually, Muhammad expelled all three Jewish tribes from Medina, finally beheading 600-900 Jews in the market square of Medina.  See Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad, para. 690.)

· Muslim targeting Christians in Syria – Host: Bad things happen on both sides in time of war.

· Wife beating per Surah 4:34 – Host: That is taken out of context. The Prophet never beat any of his wives. (Ayisha claimed that Muhammad struck her and caused her pain in the reliable Sahih Muslim hadith, Book 004, Number 2127.)

· The Muslims’ silence about acts of jihad – Host: Most Muslims are busy working and raising families and don’t get involved with speaking out.  (Actually, Sharia Law says it is unlawful for a Muslim to criticize the acts of other Muslim. See R of T, Section r2.8 and r20.2.)

· The fact that the Muslim Student Association recites the Muslim Brotherhood creed that says “Jihad is our Way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.” – Host:  I’ll put you in touch with the president of the MSA West.

What is more tragic is that the King Fahd mosque is shielding its own congregation from the unsavory truths about Muhammad despite the Quran’s endorsement of Muhammad as the “good example.” Here is one visitor’s story in her own words:

After the men went away, a very friendly young girl with a hijab came to me and I was talking with her.  She was from Saudi Arabia and her parents dropped her off at the mosque for Quran study.  She was 9 years old. . . I then said to her did you learn about your prophet? She said she was learning some.  Then I told her did you know that he married a 9 year old girl, just like you? Her jaw dropped and she was astounded.  I told her that he was “engaged” to her when she was 6 and then he married her and was over 50.  I also told her it was his favorite wife, Ayisha.  She was stunned.  (See the reliable Bukhari hadith Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)

4. Inequality of women --  Women are definitely in an inferior position based on the Quran and reliable hadith.  Surah 4:34 says that Allah has made men superior to women.  The testimony of two women is equivalent to one man (Surah 2:282).  Women inherit one-half of their male counterparts. (Surah 4:11) A reliable hadith has Muhammad asserting that women are deficient in intelligence and religion (See Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 6, Number 301.)

So it was almost laughable when a Muslim woman at the Anaheim Mosque claimed that it wasn’t until Muhammad appeared on the scene that women actually became respected on earth.  When the imam was questioned about the requirement of four male witnesses to lead to a rape conviction (per perversions of Surahs 4:15 and 24:14), the imam suddenly said he had to leave.

5. Hijab as rejection of Western customs -- Many of the visitors to Southern California mosques noted that the Muslim women all wore hijabs.  While “liberated” Muslims insist that there is no Islamic requirement to wear hijabs or niqabs, there is increased pressure on women by their mosque leaders to wear them to signal their rejection of Western customs.  Sharia Law (Reliance of the Traveler, Section w23.1) says a woman is naked (‘awra) if any part of her body is exposed in public, except perhaps her hands and face.  However, the Quran (Surah 24:31) only requires women to be modest in their appearance.

When a woman who was selling hijabs one of the mosques was asked why she wore a hijab, she replied that the Quran says women must wear it.  Calling her bluff, a visitor handed her a Quran and asked her to show him the specific verse.  She could not.

6. Corruption of United States history – The first war entered into by the United States was against the Barbary Pirates in North Africa. After winning independence from the British, the U.S. was no longer protected by the treaties (and tribute) negotiated by Great Britain.  The Barbary Pirates began attacking American ships and enslaving the crew and passengers. When the American ambassador to Europe at the time,  Thomas Jefferson, protested to the Dey of Algers, he was told, “…that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise.”  At one time the United States was spending 20 percent of its national budget paying tribute (extortion) to the Barbary Pirates.

So it was a bit disturbing that the State College Mosque of Omar Al-Farouk in Anaheim featured a display titled “The Quran’s Place in American History” which asserted that 1) there was no hostility between Muslims and Americans in the early American history, and 2) that both Presidents John Adams and Thomas Jefferson read the Quran.  (The truth is that both Adams and Jefferson had copies of George Sale’s 1734 English translation of the Quran which included the following assertions: 1) the Quran is a manifest forgery; 2) Muhammad owed his progress and establishment almost entirely to the sword; 3) Muhammad was really the author and chief contriver of the Quran; 4) Muhammad told a woman that no old woman would enter paradise, and 5) the pilgrimage to Mecca was so filled with silly and insignificant things that Muhammad found he could abolish idolatry much more easily that he could eradicate the superstitious bigotry to which Muslims were addicted at that temple. Congressman Keith Ellison should be ashamed that he swore his oath of office on Jefferson’s Quran.)

7. Mosque-planting for worship or for establishing enclaves?  -- It is apparent from the mosques that were visited that the local Muslims had little to do with the financing of the mosques or even deciding on their location.  Generally, many of the new mosques in the U.S. are not in areas where there are large numbers of Muslims.  Examples include Culver City (CA), Lomita (CA), Murfreesboro (TN), and Sheepshead Bay (NY).  Erick Stakelbeck, in “The Brotherhood,” suggests that there is a sinister strategy at play:  By locating a mosque away from where the Muslims actually live, it makes the mosque a commuter destination, and the resulting traffic and congestion drives out the non-Muslims from the community.  Then the Muslims can buy housing at depressed prices and create a Muslim enclave near the mosque.
Related to this political strategy is a telling statement by the Muslim Brotherhood in their 1991 Explanatory Memorandum outlining their long-range strategic plans for the United States:

 Understanding the role and the nature of work of the “The Islamic Center” in every city with what achieves the goal of the process of settlement:

. . . Thus, the Islamic center would turn into a place for study, family, battalion [for launching jihad?], course, seminar, visit, sport, school, social club, women gathering, kindergarten, office of the domestic political resolution [i.e., enforcing Sharia law], and the center for distributing our newspapers, magazines, books and our audio and visual tapes.

Note that nowhere in that statement is the idea of worship even mentioned. Several mosque observers at this year’s Open Mosque Day noted that the prayer demonstrations seemed to be perfunctory; “rushed and dull,” as one observer put it.

7.  Literature advocating violence in mosque libraries and bookstores --   Some of the books found at the mosques included works by Syed Qutb, Sayyid Mawdudi, and Bilal Phillips.  Examples of their teaching:
Qutb: “The true basis of the Islamic approach . . . moves forward to liberate mankind from servitude to other human beings, so that they can worship Allah alone. Its aim is to destroy tyrannical forces and regimes which force people to submit to a rule different from that of Allah, and apply a law other than His own. . . From the Islamic point of view, jihad has its own justification, derived from its own system.”  (In the Shade of the Quran, Vol. VII, page 25-28)

Mawdudi: “Anyone who wants to uproot mischief and disorder from this world and wants to reform
mankind should realize that he cannot do so by mere sermonizing and counseling. It is useless. He should rise against the government of false principles; he should seize power, remove the wrongdoers from the seat of authority and set up a government based on sound principles and just administration [i.e., Sharia law].” (The Essence of Jihad, Page 10-11)

The Saudi-paid imam of the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, Fahad al Thumairy, was expelled from the United States in 2003 for his support of terrorists in the 2001 attack on New York City and Washington, D.C.  At the Open Mosque event, the hosts at the King Fahd mosque announced that they are now expecting a new Imam from Saudi Arabia in February. (Good luck with that!)  Earlier in October of this year, a new convert to Islam from Southern California, Hasan Abu Omar Ghannoum (aka Sinh Vinh Ngo Nguyen), was arrested as he boarded a bus bound for a likely jihad engagement overseas.  No local mosque is willing to claim credit for his conversion or his radicalization.

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A few simple rules and links to disram the modern progressive regressive liberal

This is a guest post by Neil Schnurr who has the site Golden Geese News and also posts over at Conservative Blogs Central.

Just so you all know, I just spent over an hour working on getting this to format properly here and I just finally let it go and posted it up as you see here.

I would really like to think that what Neil has to say here will sway a lot of progressive regressive liberals and it might very well do this but I think these many of these people are so indoctrinated, brainwashed, that they will be dragged into total enslavement BEFORE they admit that many of us conservatives KNEW what we were warning people about, and we tried to tell them. There is a very real possibility many Americans are getting really disgusted and sick of Obama. Now with Obamacare, everything is hitting the American people in the place they see and feel it most, their wallets or purses.

Will the sleeping, clueless sheeple of AmeriKKKA finally be aroused from their Kool Aid induced slumber? We really hope so and as Neil recommends, use what is here to tear the liberal house into rubble. PatriotUSA


 A Golden Opportunity For Conservatives

You all know how to link, don’t you?

After, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, NSA spying, and the many transgressions of the Obama administration, finally we might have an issue where we seem to be getting some traction.

The general public is actually starting to show some dissatisfaction with Obamacare. While most people are either incapable of understanding,  or just don’t take the time to understand, how the previous Obama scandals have affected them, this Obamacare debacle is easy for them to grasp. Especially when they see their health insurance cancelled and how much more health coverage is now going to cost them.

The other Obama fiascos only directly affected select groups of people, but Obamacare is going to directly impact a very large percentage of the population.  Just about everyone will either be negatively affected, or will know someone personally, that will be.  Finally, the people who don’t pay attention to news or politics, are starting to see and understand how Obama’s policies hurt them. 
This is our chance. Don’t waste it. In the near future, you are going to hear people that never liked to discuss politics, start saying things like, “My lost my health insurance because of Obamacare.” or “My health care insurance is now more expensive under Obamacare.” or “I’ve tried, but can’t get signed up for Obamacare.  The website’s a pain in the ass.
When they say things like that - That’s your opportunity to get through to them.  They now have had some first hand experience, and understand how at least one liberal policy has had a negative impact on their lives.  They are now going to be more open to hearing what you’ve got to say than ever before.  This will be your golden opportunity to get through to them.  How do you do that?  By linking.

Obamacare is Obama’s signature issue.  He has put more effort into this than anything else (except campaigning), but look at the results.  Obamacare is starting to look to the general public like an ill-conceived, poorly administered disaster, and they are 100% correct.

Now if Obamacare...

  • Doesn’t deliver what was promised
  • Costs the country more than expected
  • Costs individual citizens more than expected
  • Reduces citizens ability to choose what type of insurance plan is best for them
  • Can’t even produce a useable website
  • Was sold to the American public with misstatements and outright lies

Imagine how bad the rest of Obama’s policies and programs are!  I promise you, that people are going to see the connections when you link it to other things.

When someone says that Obamacare hasn’t delivered what was promised, you link it to the stimulus package and explain how that didn’t deliver what was promised.

When anyone says that Obamacare is going to cost the country more than expected, you link it to how Obama’s other policies have cost the country more than expected, and increased the national debt to $17 trillion.When a person says that their health insurance is going to cost them more under Obamacare, you link it to how Obama’s energy policies cost them more at the gas pump, and how increased energy cost drive up all other costs. 

When a friend tells you that Obamacare has reduced his choices of health insurance policies, you link that to the fact that Obama has often attempted to reduce people’s choices, like a person’s choice to defend themselves with a particular type of firearm.

When someone speaks of the incompetence of the Obama administration in setting up the Obamacare website, you link it to the administration’s incompetence in handling Benghazi, the economy, and just about everything else.

When people say they were lied to, when Obama was pitching Obamacare, you link that to how he and his administration, lied about Benghazi, the IRS scandal, Fast and Furious, etc.

I thought of all this as fast as I could write it.  Imagine what you could come up with, if you put some thought into it. Let’s not let this crisis go to waste! 

Now they’re putty in your hands and here’s how to get them to come over to your side.  You link all they have just learned to the fact that they don’t have all they want in life, that they aren’t realizing their dreams.  Mention all the things that they could have had if it weren’t for liberal policies.  That Harley that they have been lusting after, they could have had it, if it weren’t for the likes of Obama.  They talk about the fond memories they have of their dad’s Mustang and they're disappointed that they can’t afford one.  They could, if it weren’t for the progressive agenda.  They wish they could have had their own business?  They could have, if it weren’t for liberal policies. 

Once people understand what Obama and other liberals have cost them, they won’t be so disinterested in politics anymore, and you’ll be able to count them being in the conservative corner.

Source is here 

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Obamacare disaster warned about in adavance from CGI-Confidential document here

This is from The Last Refuge or Conservative Treehouse. I am stealing, eh hem, I mean re-posting it here and I hope the document shows up that CNN has obtained.

I am very pleased to be posting this up right after Gary posted his article regarding people being able to keep their health plans under Obamacare. That is working out well, is it not for all? The timing of this could not be better and to all of you who voted for this traitor, this manufactured man who is a liar, thief and hates America and AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, who thought Obama and Obamacare would be so wonderful, here you go. The administration KNEW all of this. Every damn bit that this 'plan' would fail, and fail badly. How do you feel about voting for Obama now? As Gary mentioned, he has trouble feeling sorry for any of you Obama supporters and so do I. The real losers besides us are our younger generations and the generations behind them. It is a long way off until the 2014/2016 elections but Americans must remember this and these darkest of days since 2008. Obama is making George Bush look like Prince Charming and Richard Nixon look like a SAINT. I always liked Richard Nixon and if you take umbrage with that, save it for another time. At least Nixon had the CLASS to resign unlike Clinton.

Obamacare was designed to fail as progressive regressive retards want to force the country onto a single payer system, the total express lane to hell and enslavement. Good job, those of you who voted for this loser and the the liberal filth that infects this country today from left to right coast. Epic fail. PatriotUSA


CNN Obtains Documents Showing Administration Given “Stark Warnings” Just Before Obamacare Launch…. (Confidential Document pdf included)

CONTEXT FIRST - Tomorrow HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius is set to testify before congress.   For those of you who are unfamiliar with how congressional hearings work there is a rule of bi-partisan discovery where Dem’s must share information to be used during the hearing with Republicans, and vice-versa.

This is done so that no-one is caught off guard with anything that takes place in the hearings.   It’s somewhat of a ruse (under the excuse of professional courtesy) that few people know about.  Congressional hearings are investigative only to the extent the questions being asked are not known by the opposing party.  However, each knows what documents and evidence the other has walking in.
Why is that pertinent?   Simply because when you see the media do these pre-hearing exclusive/confidential document stories you know the source of the leaked intel is the party seeking to diminish the impact.  It’s just how they roll.    The Dem’s gave this CGI report to CNN so that CNN could write up a story and remove the *shock value* in advance of the hearing.

Washington (CNN) – The Obama administration was given stark warnings just one month before that the federal healthcare site was not ready to go live, according to a confidential report obtained by CNN.

The caution, from the main contractor CGI, warned of a number of open risks and issues for the HealthCare.gov web site even as company executives were testifying publicly that the project had achieved key milestones.

On Capitol Hill on Monday, Medicaid Chief Marilyn Tavenner, whose job it was to oversee the October 1 rollout of the website, said she did not foresee its problems.
“No, we had tested the website and we were comfortable with its performance,” she said. “Now, like I said, we knew all along there would be as with any new website, some individual glitches we would have to work out. But, the volume issue and the creation of account issues was not anticipated and obviously took us by surprise. And did not show up in testing.”

But the CGI document, which describes “top risks currently open” and “outstanding issues currently being mitigated” says the testing timeframes are “not adequate to complete full functional, system, and integration testing activities” and lists the impact of the problems as “significant.”

Another element is listed as ” not enough time in schedule to conduct adequate performance testing” and given the highest priority.  (read more)

Source is here from TLR.

I bet you miss me now, even more!

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Whatever Happened to, "If You LIke Your Plan, You Can Keep It"?

Gary Fouse

No matter how we reform healthcare, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your healthcare plan, you'll be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."
-President Obama, June 2009

That was the promise President Obama unequivocally made to all of us. It appears it was a lie. Now, as people are losing their health insurance, White House spokesman Jay Carney is, as usual, struggling for an explanation.


"So it's true there are existing healthcare plans on the individual market that do not meet those minimum standards and therefore do not qualify for the Affordable Care Act,"

-Jay Carney

Well, at least Jay didn't say that Obama's previous statement was "inoperative" (old Watergate joke).

Here is the lie: The IRS was saying as early as 2010 that millions of people would lose their current health care insurance.


Yet, on June 28, 2012, Obama spoke on television from the White House and repeated his promise that those who liked their insurance would keep it. Here is a quasi-sympathetic article from Politifact (Tampa Bay Times) at the time. The important point is what Obama said after the Supreme Court ruling.


To those of you who voted for Obama in spite of all the red flags and those of you who have defended Obamacare in spite of all the warnings, I have to say: If you have been hurt by Obamacare, I find it hard to have any sympathy. We warned you this would happen.

But there is hope for you yet. I am predicting that this whole mess will collapse under its own weight. Even some Democrats in Congress-those who are not driven ideologues- are beginning to understand what a disaster this is.


Powder in the morning, powder in the afternoon, powder at night. Smell the powder, all of the time!

Thanks to my friend Peri for this. PatriotUSA

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SPLODY HEAD! - Immigration/Amnesty

H/T I’m 41 – from Freedom OutpostTed Cruz Exposes Amnesty Bill: $5000 Penalty For Hiring Citizens Over Legalized Aliens

"We can’t possibly expect our Senators to read a 1200 page bill before voting on it. Can we? Well Thank God Ted Cruz read it. Not only did Cruz read it but he schooled anyone who would listen from the Senate floor on Tuesday. Cruz found a loophole that actually penalizes an employer $5000 for hiring a citizen over a legalized alien. Seriously. You can’t make this stuff up. Senator Cruz was quoted as saying:

“I filed an amendment that would have corrected one of the most egregious aspects of the gang of eight bill as it intersects with Obamacare legislation, namely a penalty imposed on U.S. employers for hiring U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents. This bill says if an employer hires a citizen or a legal immigrant, the IRS can impose a $5,000 penalty on that employer. But if the employer instead hires someone with RPI status, that penalty will go away. That is utterly and completely indefensible.”

Aaannnd continue here iffin you still posses the top of your head.
I had no intention of using this video. I just don’t like truth as humor some times. Forget that! The video is over a year old but the Brits ain’t got nuttin on us now! Swiped from Cmblake6

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The Angry Conservative-Guest post

This is a guest post from an individual who goes by the name of Young Republican.

As is my habit and this is right out of trying to be a fair, moral, honest, welcoming person who lives by the code of MY morals, ethics and values, I am sharing one of YR posts with you.

I admire this person who is much younger than me and YR posts over at Conservative Blogs Central. So do I and it is a great site. YR said some things that were for the most part accurate but YR was painting the canvas with a very wide brush. I came into the discussion late and YR had gone after two friends over at CBC. I jumped in and as the discussion got passionate and a bit 'heated', I called YR a name or two and the one that I got YR with when I called YR a 'sniveling whelp.' I make no apologies to YR as my name for YR is pretty accurate from my take on things. You have to be tough and very thick skinned in the blogging world and even more so in the real world. I also am staunch, nasty and vicious defender of my friends. All there is to it and I know no other way. YR objects to name calling and the ad hominem attacks and I said, tough get over it and so did a couple of other bloggers. YR claims we were of intellectually bereft levels. No, not even close but whatever.

Young Republican is a very deep, articulate thinker and writes very well. What YR has to say is worth reading and while I do not agree with all of what YR writes, it is a good thing, a very good thing we have younger folks who actually give a damn and are starting to see the forest for the trees.

This is the post that I jumped into the comments section of and had to assist, defend my friends, Neil Schnurr and Conservative Wife.

If You're Looking for Someone to Blame, Try Looking in the Mirror

Everyone knows the rules of the house and I will NOT tolerate any nastiness or nefarious behavior. This person writes with passion and is worried for their future. I would be too if it was my their generation that gave us Obama. I am deeply worried about not only myself, my children, yours but I am also extremely worried for all generations behind us. PatriotUSA


The Angry Conservative 

By Young Republican

The other day I responded to a post on Conservative Blogs Central and needless to say I was shocked by the visceral response I received in kind.  I am innocent of nothing when it came to instigating the debate, but I do not believe I ever stooped to the level of name calling and ad hominem attacks.  I apologize to everyone if you can find an instance of me lowering myself to such intellectually bereft levels.  I was inspired to write this post because of the aforementioned interaction.  Yes I was angry, but my anger was caused by blame being placed upon my whole generation without what I to believed to be any warranted reason.  I will agree to the fact that my geneartion, the Millenials, voting overwhelmingly for our President.  This I cannot dispute, but I will not let the blame be placed soley upon my generation for the near entirety of the current mess we find ourselves.

One claim I must respond to is that the Baby Boomers voted overwhelmingly conservative in the past elections.  This claim is not true as seen by the chart provided by Fox News below,  As you can see the bulk of the Boomers (50-64 or those born between 1948-1962)  were almost evenly split, seprated by only five points.  And those in the older cohort of Generation X (another group accused for our current malase) hardly votedly with wild enthusiasm for Mr. Obama.

In conclusion my central point in this response is that anger at our youngest generation will get us no where.  Yes I myself have said my generation is shooting ourselves in the foot, but I do not believe we are beyond hope.  In order for conservatives to win the youth vote in future elections or I should say the middle aged vote very soon we must tinker our messaging.  We cannot resort to the us versus them tactics that have characterized both sides of the debate as of recent.  The Republcian party I am sorry to sar,  just like Obama in 2008, must come off as all encompassing ready to accept everyone and ready to help everyone. Ronald Reagan was the same way.

As much as some other people on these boards will not admit, marketability and yes this means "coolness" sometimes, is a big factor in winning elections.  If you do not think Reagan won partially because of his coolness and likeability you are kidding yourselves.  Politics as much as I would like it to be is not all about ideas.  Politics I hate to say for those idea people out there is mostly about common appeal.  Most people do not start their weeks off by watching the Sunday talking head shows and most people do not continue to surround themselves with such talk throughout the week.  The majority of Americans tune in to politics every four years and then they go about their everyday lives.  If Republicans wish to take back power and pass conservative policies we must once again, just like one of our favorites Mr. Reagan, attempt to master the art of common appeal.

In which age group are you?












65 or over

Source: Fox News

Guest posted by www.theenlightenedrepublican.com

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Military Police Leak FEMA Gun Confiscation Plan

I am NOT an Alex Jone's person at all but this is worth sharing and there are MANY reasons to be concerned. The feds are just needing an excuse to declare martial law. Another bad storm, terrorist attacks, domestic chaos, fear and loathing from the collapse of the system, food stamp riots, government made crisis like school shootings, the Naval yard incident, or just any reason to kill as many domestic American Patriots off as they can? You think I am joking? Get your head out of your collective A$$es and wake up. The vipers along with the foxes are indeed not only in the chicken coop, they are setting us up to fail and only need an excuse to protect 'us' from the evil bad guys. PatriotUSA

Tags: Gun confiscation, Second Amendment, FEMA, Martial Law, Natural and man made disasters, Gun grabbing collectivists, Obama,DINO and RINO traitors, American Patriot Resistance Federal government, Liberal communist progressive regressive behavior.  To share or post to your site, click on "Post Link". Please mention / link to the Patriot's Corner. Thanks!

The screw is actually bigger

Obamacare Cartoon Screw
A.F. Branco can be found here.

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Oliver Stone at UC Irvine

Gary Fouse

On October 26, motion picture producer Oliver Stone appeared at UC Irvine along with Professor Peter Kuznick of American University to promote their movie and book entitled, "The Untold History of the United States". The event was sponsored by the UCI Dept of Film and Media Studies and the UCI Humanities Collective.

After a couple of introductory remarks by UCI officials, Mr Kuznick introduced the film. (Stone had not arrived yet.) The film, narrated by Stone, lasted about an hour and basically was devoted to attacking the foreign policy of the United States. I say basically because it was a rambling film beginning with sinister images of George W Bush and Dick Cheney in the aftermath of 9-11. The idea was that Bush and Cheney used 9-11 to promote their vision of attacking several Middle Eastern countries. The film ridiculed the idea that the administration had chosen hundreds of US locales and events as possible terrorist targets like the Indianapolis 500, petting zoos, amusement parks etc. Some in the audience laughed derisively.

(No mention was made of the Boston Marathon. Apparently, Bush and Cheney overlooked that one.)

The film moved on to cover all the controversial aspects of the resultant war on terror; the Patriot Act, the invasion of Afghanistan ("even though no Afghans were among the 9-11 hijackers", completely ignoring the fact that Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda were based in that country), the Iraq war, Abu Ghraib, water-boarding, and on and on. References were made back to Vietnam to drive home the point that America is an imperialistic country- a description that was made several times during the Q and A. There were scenes of Americans torturing foreign prisoners, but the scenes came from previous motion pictures involving actors. There were also actual Abu Ghraib photographs, more graphic than previously seen by the public in that they showed full frontal nudity of the prisoners.

I also noted that Stone's skill in film making also includes the appropriate use of low volume background music. Whenever Bush and Cheney were pictured, the music was sinister in nature, but when the election of Obama was portrayed, the first images of Obama were accompanied by uplifting 4th of July-type music.

Not to say that Obama didn't come in for criticism, but  the main theme seemed that Obama continued the Bush policies so as not to be perceived as weak on defense. His campaign funding was also criticized. During the Q and A, Stone described Obama as a reasonable man, but he was concerned about how a hard-line successor like Bush or Cheney might abuse his powers (paraphrasing).

There was also much use of the National Anthem being played in the background (very low in volume) in slow motion, sad tones so as to reinforce the impression that America has lost her way and is betraying her ideals..

There were also at least three references to "neo-cons" in the movie. There was the requisite condemnation of Wall Street, the banks and the bank bailouts, as well as a reference (with sinister music) to the "infamous" Koch Bothers. (No mention of George Soros) and the Tea Party (no mention of Occupy)

I reiterate here that the movie was rambling in case you think this posting is rambling. In discussing Southeast Asia, there was a reference made to a statement by Alfred W. McCoy, who was the author of ,"The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia", a book written in 1972 that charged the CIA as being complicit in heroin trafficking in the Golden Triangle area of Burma, Thailand and Laos, as well as Vietnam through their support of corrupt anti-Communist officials and armies, who in turn had their hands in the drug traffic. There was a shot of the book cover, with a sub-title that said something like, "How the CIA was involved in the Drug Trade". I am paraphrasing. One or two words may be off, but that was the message conveyed.  Being an old DEA agent who served in Thailand a few years after the book came out, I have read the book and still have a copy on my book shelf. There is no such sub-title on the cover. True, there is much criticism in the book of the US -and the CIA-supporting corrupt people in the aforementioned countries because they were anti-Communist.

The most ridiculous shot of the movie was a shot of ex- playboy LA mayor Antonio Villaraigosa giving a speech and decrying the money spent on the military as opposed to education or some other social program.

I mean, quoting Antonio Villaraigosa??!!

The most offensive line was a statement by Stone in the narration that described "Navy Seals executing Osama bin Laden vigilante style and dumping his body into the sea".  There was also a reference to "the terror threat grown wildly out of proportion."

The film ended with Stone pleading for an America with more understanding of the positions of our enemies, surrendering the idea of American exceptualism, peace, love, etc.

Upon the completion of the film, Stone entered the hall and he and Kuznick sat at the stage to take questions. I got the first, and it went something like this: "I am a part-time teacher here at the UCI Ext and I would like to address this to Mr Stone because like you, I am a military veteran during the same time period. Unlike you, I was not sent to Vietnam, rather Germany, so I have great respect for your military service to our country. I do feel, however, that your experience has turned you against your country, and I would like to know if you ever considered that were it not for the US and particularly our military, I don't think any country in the world would be living in freedom today. If I have any message for the young people in this room it is that in spite of this one-sided presentation, all our mistakes and dark chapters in our history-and we are still making mistakes today, this is a great country and does deserve your support and loyalty." (Mild applause).

Stone's first sentence back to me was, "Obviously, Sir, we disagree." He then went on a long answer outlining his points beginning with his original belief that the Vietnam war was just when he was sent there, but how he changed his opinions after he returned. He then went on to a litany of other issues before the moderator moved on to the next question. At some point during the Q and A, he made references to former presidents who had led the country into war and who had run against war vets. The prime example he used was George McGovern, who had been a fighter pilot in World War II vs Richard Nixon, who was a "rear echelon officer making his money in the Navy playing cards". (Again I am paraphrasing.) He also mentioned George W Bush, of course, but said nothing about draft dodger Bill Clinton, who defeated George HW Bush and Bob Dole, also decorated WW II vets.

I did not videotape this event because at the start, they requested no taping. I could have made a scene and insisted on the right to tape since it was a public event at a public university, but since they announced that the school would be posting it on their website, I decided not to.

There were three or four other questions. One older vet became emotional in asking for the Veterans Administration to take more action to help homeless vets. Neither Stone nor Kuznick had much to add to that. A couple of other questions were, frankly, difficult to understand.

During the Q and A, I heard the speakers make several references to America as an imperial power. of course, they did not list any of America's colonies.

To sum up, this movie, while well-produced, is a one-sided presentation of many complex issues in our history including today's issues. While there were several criticisms of intelligence gathering that has intruded on the privacy of the American public, issues like Benghazi, Operation Fast and Furious, and the IRS scandal  were not delved into. Perhaps, that has something to do with when production on the film closed. I don't know. I attended this event because I anticipated (correctly) that it would be an exercise in America-bashing. I hoped that I would get an opportunity during the Q and A to say something positive about our country for the benefit of the students in the audience. It was about the only positive thing said about our country all evening.

But what do you expect on the campus of an American university?