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Moderate muslims and the mosque at Ground Zero: My response....

This editorial appreared in our local paper, the Bend Bulletin. I not an expert on islam or sharia law but I am a student of this stone age ideology. Hours are spent each week, reading on islam and sharia law. So after reading this I came up with this response: First of all I do not think one can separate radical islam from islam. Unless the 'modern versions of islam' does away with sharia law, jihad, persecution, and the subjugation of women and minorities, this will never happen. See the previous post about the "16 points of islam on islamophobia." Yes, it is true that Washington has squandered billions of our tax dollars on trying to 'modernize islam' but these efforts have been for naught. What changes can we point to in islamic countries where our efforts have made a huge difference? Iraq? Please, while we have done a lot of good there, the country remains a squabbling hornet's nest of tribal bickering. Sharia law is in the Iraqi constitution so how does that work for you?


I disagree that a mosque anywhere near Ground Zero will be a hub of moderate islam, or bring healing to this country. It is well known that in the qur'an muslims are directed to build mosques, the biggest ones possible after an islamic victory, or battle. Obama coming out in support of this wretched plot to islamize one of America's most scared areas is just as disgusting as this proposed mosque. True reform within islam would mean abandoning much of what the prophet muhammad said, and ridding islam of sharia alw and the barbaric punishments contained within sharia law. Will islamic countries allow churches, synagoges, temples to built in on spots that where mosques once stood, stand higher than all the buidlings around these new centers of worship, or be built at islamic battle grounds? I seriously doubt this will happen ever inside islamic countries. In how many islamic countries are Jews and Christians welcomed like we have 'welcomed' islam here?


Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf is made out to be a peace loving, moderate man of islam. All one has to do is spend some time researching Feisal and the truth will come out. He may have denounced terrorism but he still has come out against Israel and in support of the palestinians and the way they have waged a campaign of terror against Israel. I have not read or heard him say he refutes the evil passages of the qur'an or sharia law. The man is engaging in the age old practice of taqiyya. He is speaking out of both sides of this mouth. The Cordoba Institute is not a what is seems to be as portrayed by Bloomberg and his ilk. Speaking of Bloomberg, his speech in support of this mosque was in this patriot's opinion, a very sad day for America. An insult and slap to the face of the almost 3,000 that died on 9/11, not to mention the families and friends who all lost loved ones. Here is what Fareed Zakaria said about Bloomberg's speech: "Bloomberg's speech stands in stark contrast to the bizarre decision of the Anti-Defamation League to publicly side with those urging that the center be moved. The ADL's mission statement says it seeks “to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens.” But Abraham Foxman, the head of the ADL, explained that we must all respect the feelings of the 9/11 families, even if they are prejudiced feelings. “Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted,” he said.


First, the 9/11 families have mixed views on this mosque. There were, after all, dozens of Muslims killed at the World Trade Center. Do their feelings count? But more important, does Foxman believe that bigotry is OK if people think they're victims? Does the anguish of Palestinians, then, entitle them to be anti-Semitic?"


The ADL has sided with islamists in the past and has so many JINOS as members, it is enough to make me almost ill. The ADL has no credibility with me and most people I know. Abe Foxman? I will not even bother to comment on him. He calls the 9/11 victim's feelings "prejudiced feelings." What does Cair and almost every islamic organization scream and cry out about whenever an individual, organization, school district takes a stand against islam or muslims trying to force their ways and sharia law upon us? It is the racist, anti-Semitic, islamophobic charges right away.


Zakaria brings up Bloomberg's comments on religious freedom in America. True enough,but he ignores and refuses to recognize that islam IS NOT a religion. It is an ideology, not a religion. It is, as I have often mentioned, a cradle to grave ideology that robs the individual of all freedom of thought or actions. It demands a strict walk that is not based on love or peace but based on persecution, violence and adherence to sharia law. The majority of 9/11 families have come out against this proposed mosque. A few of them have mixed feelings and an even fewer number have come out in favor of this mosque. The vast majority of Americans polled across the country have come AGAINST this proposed mosque. Yet the potus,once again has kicked Americans in the heart. This time perhaps worse than any other error he has committed. NOvember and beyond will show this to be true.


The returning of the award to the ADL mirrors the mullah obamaham returning the gifts from England that had long graced the White House. Just because the ADL came out against the mosque with twisted logic, Zakaria returned his award and the $10,000 honorarium to the ADL. One decision does not make the ADL an organization full of islamophobes or racists that hate islam. Zakaria can change his mind as he is entitled to. His portrayal of moderate islam and muslims is without merit or standing. Most muslims who lay claim to being moderates are not. They will say one thing in front of the cameras and recorders but another to their fellow muslims. One only has to pull back the curtain to expose the deception and lies that islam has fed to Americans for far too long. We are waking up and becoming educated about islam and sharia law. This has been long in coming.


One final comment on what The Somali-born “ex-Muslim” writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali's advice to Muslims is: Convert to Chritianity. Will this create a big buzz? I would surely hope so. Ayaan Hirsi know all too well what the real islam and sharia law are, not the white washed version Zakaria and Abdul Rauf are trying to peddle. However and by whatever means one can free themselves from islam, should be the way to go. Just know bridges will be burned for good and your family may try to kill you.


Now if I have not put you to sleep, please read Fareed Zarakia's editorial that I have commented on. Note that it appeared in Newsweek magazine. Nothing more needs to be added.




Ground zero mosque and moderate Muslims
By Fareed Zakaria

Ever since 9/11, liberals and conservatives have agreed that the lasting solution to the problem of Islamic terror is to prevail in the battle of ideas and to discredit radical Islam, the ideology that motivates young men to kill and be killed. Victory in the war on terror will be won when a moderate, mainstream version of Islam — one that is compatible with modernity — fully triumphs over the worldview of Osama bin Laden.

As the conservative Middle Eastern expert Daniel Pipes put it, “The U.S. role (in this struggle) is less to offer its own views than to help those Muslims with compatible views, especially on such issues as relations with non-Muslims, modernization, and the rights of women and minorities.” To that end, early in its tenure the Bush administration began a serious effort to seek out and support moderate Islam. Since then, Washington has funded mosques, schools, institutes and community centers that are trying to modernize Islam around the world. Except, apparently, in New York City.

The debate over whether an Islamic center should be built a few blocks from the World Trade Center site has ignored a fundamental point. If there is going to be a reformist movement in Islam, it is going to emerge from places like the proposed institute. We should be encouraging groups like the one behind this project, not demonizing them. Were this mosque being built in a foreign city, chances are that the U.S. government would be funding it.

The man spearheading the center, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, is a moderate Muslim clergyman. He has said one or two things about American foreign policy that strike me as overly critical — but it's stuff you could read on The Huffington Post any day.

On Islam, his main subject, Rauf's views are clear: He routinely denounces all terrorism — as he did again last week, publicly. He speaks of the need for Muslims to live peacefully with all other religions. He emphasizes the commonalities among all faiths. He advocates equal rights for women, and argues against laws that in any way punish non-Muslims. His last book, “What's Right With Islam Is What's Right With America,” argues that the United States is actually the ideal Islamic society because it encourages diversity and promotes freedom for individuals and for all religions. His vision of Islam is bin Laden's nightmare.

Rauf often makes his arguments using interpretations of the Quran and other texts. Now, I am not a religious person, and this method strikes me as convoluted and jesuitical. But for the vast majority of believing Muslims, only an argument that is compatible with their faith is going to sway them. The Somali-born “ex-Muslim” writer Ayaan Hirsi Ali's advice to Muslims is to convert to Christianity. That may create buzz, but it is unlikely to have any effect on the 1.2 billion devout Muslims in the world.

The much larger issue that this center raises is, of course, of freedom of religion in America. Much has been written about this, and I would only urge people to read Michael Bloomberg's speech on the subject last week. Bloomberg's eloquent, brave and carefully reasoned address should become required reading in every civics classroom in America. It probably will.

Bloomberg's speech stands in stark contrast to the bizarre decision of the Anti-Defamation League to publicly side with those urging that the center be moved. The ADL's mission statement says it seeks “to put an end forever to unjust and unfair discrimination against and ridicule of any sect or body of citizens.” But Abraham Foxman, the head of the ADL, explained that we must all respect the feelings of the 9/11 families, even if they are prejudiced feelings. “Their anguish entitles them to positions that others would categorize as irrational or bigoted,” he said.

First, the 9/11 families have mixed views on this mosque. There were, after all, dozens of Muslims killed at the World Trade Center. Do their feelings count? But more important, does Foxman believe that bigotry is OK if people think they're victims? Does the anguish of Palestinians, then, entitle them to be anti-Semitic?

Five years ago, the ADL honored me with its Hubert H. Humphrey First Amendment Freedoms Prize. I was thrilled to get the award from an organization that I had long admired. But I cannot in good conscience keep it anymore. I have returned both the handsome plaque and the $10,000 honorarium that came with it. I urge the ADL to reverse its decision. Admitting an error is a small price to pay to regain a reputation.

Fareed Zakaria is a member of The Washington Post Writers Group.

Original editorial can be found here

Protest growing against mosque at ground zero. This is a travesty to those who died on 9/11

All I can really add is this: If I lived back there or could afford to get back east, I would be at this protest in a heart beat! I can think of nothing that is more insulting to those who lost loved ones, family, friends and co-workers in the horrific and cold blooded attacks on 9/11. To allow a mosque here on what I and many Americans consider 'Sacred Ground'is reprehensible, insensitive and against what America lost on 9/11/2001. It would not matter if the mosque was only a 100 square ft. room. A mosque of ANY size is a perversion and should not be allowed. This is all part of Islam's plan, to do things like this. This would be a victory in the eyes of many Muslims and crowned a major victory throughout the Islamic world that the POTUS has apologized and bowed down how many times? Do not be fooled by this and the sickly soothing words that you read from the Muslim 'stealth jihadists'who are behind this sinsiter plot. I am posting the entire article as it is one I am calling a MUST READ. Please read the entire artcile. If you live close by then go to the protests that are planned.



Islamic mosque at 9/11 Ground Zero sparks protest

'Any decent, American, Muslim or otherwise, wouldn't dream of such an insult'
By Chelsea Schilling

WorldNetDaily; A human-rights group is calling on Americans – especially family and friends of loved ones who were lost when Muslim terrorists murdered 2,751 people in the name of Allah on Sept. 11, 2001 – to fight construction of a 13-story Islamic mosque to be built just steps from Ground Zero.

The five-story building at Park Place, just blocks north of the former World Trade Center site, was the site of a Burlington Coat Factory. That was, until a plane's landing-gear assembly crashed through the roof on the day 19 Muslim terrorists hijacked the airliners and flew them into the Twin Towers in 2001.

Now Muslim worshippers currently occupy the building, and they plan to turn it into a major Islamic cultural center called the Cordoba House.

The group Stop Islamization of America, or SIOA, led by Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs blogger and columnist, is hosting a "No 9/11 Mosque" rally at Ground Zero June 6 at noon to protest the construction.

"What could be more insulting and humiliating than a monster mosque in the shadow of the World Trade Center buildings that were brought down by an Islamic jihad attack?" asked Geller, executive director of SIOA. "Any decent, American, Muslim or otherwise, wouldn't dream of such an insult. It's a stab in eye of America."

As WND reported, the building – previously vacant since that fateful day when time stood still as millions of Americans grieved the loss of loved ones, friends, family members, co-workers and strangers – was purchased last July by real-estate company Soho Properties, a business run by Muslims. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, founder of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, or ASMA, was an investor in that transaction.

Rauf has announced his plans to turn the building into a complete Islamic cultural center, with a mosque, a museum, "merchandising options," and room for seminars to reconcile religions, "to counteract the backlash against Muslims in general, " Speigel reported. The project may cost as much as $150 million. Plans for the facility also include a 500-seat performing arts theater, fitness center, swimming pool, library, public conference rooms, basketball courts and restaurants, according to the Tribeca Tribune.

Rauf said the mosque is expected to be a major step forward in the Americanization of the Muslim community and that if everything is done correctly, his group intends to franchise the concept and build more Cordoba Houses in other American cities and around the globe.

The Cordoba Initiative website states:

Cordoba Initiative aims to achieve a tipping point in Muslim-West relation within the next decade, bringing back that atmosphere of interfaith tolerance and respect that we have longed for since Muslims, Christians and Jews lived together in harmony and prosperity eight hundred years ago.

Solving some of the most intractable conflicts in the world today requires innovative strategies for cross-cultural engagement. Cordoba Initiative tackles this mandate with forethought, expertise and the ability to leverage contacts in influential positions within the Muslim World and the West. ... [Bold in original text.]



He told the New York Times that purchasing the building "where a piece of the wreckage fell sends the opposite statement to what happened on 9/11."

"It was almost obvious that something like this had to arise from the ashes of 9/11," Daisy Khan, the Cordoba Initiative executive director, told Spiegel. "In some way, this has the hand of the divine written over it. It's almost as if God wanted to be involved."

The move is supported by the city. The Manhattan Community Board 1's Financial District Committee gave the plans a round of applause during a May 5 presentation, according to the Tribeca Tribune. The committee voted unanimously in favor of the center's construction.

In its list of business associations, Community Board 1 includes Masjid al-Farah, another mosque located at 245 West Broadway, where Rauf is spiritual leader. The mosque near Ground Zero, and future site of the Cordoba House, currently serves as an overflow building for Masjid al-Farah.

The mayor's director of the Office of Immigrant Affairs, Fatima Shama, told the Times just last year, "We as New York Muslims have as much of a commitment to rebuilding New York as anybody."
Aerial photo of World Trade Center Ground Zero following Sept. 11 attacks. Red square to right
 of Ground Zero marks former Burlington Coat Factory and proposed location of Cordoba House.




Imam Rauf, born in Egypt, has written three books: "What's Right with Islam: A New Vision for Muslims and the West," "Islam: A Sacred Law" and "Islam: A Search for Meaning."

WND reported in 2003 when, at least four times that year, the FBI's New York field office held all-day sensitivity training sessions, not far from Ground Zero, featuring Rauf.

Speaking for about two hours each session, "he gave an overview of Islamic culture and some of the differences between what fundamentalist terrorist groups say are the teachings of the Quran and what he believes, as a student of religion, the Quran actually says," said special agent James Margolin, spokesman for the FBI New York office.

Rauf asserted that the Quran "certainly doesn't counsel terrorism, murder or mayhem," Margolin said. And he said terrorists have misinterpreted the Quranic term "jihad" to mean violent, or armed, struggle against nonbelievers. Rauf claims it means internal struggle.

Rauf was invited to speak in Sydney, Australia, by Premier Bob Carr in 2004. According to the Sydney Morning Herald, he said the U.S. and the West must acknowledge the harm they've done to Muslims before terrorism can end.

He said the West must understand the terrorists' point of view – and he blamed Christians for starting mass attacks on civilians.

"The Islamic method of waging war is not to kill innocent civilians. But it was Christians in World War II who bombed civilians in Dresden and Hiroshima, neither of which were military targets," he said.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (center) poses in a photo with attendees at a 2006 Muslim Leaders of Tomorrow conference in Copenhagen, Denmark. On the far left is Sultan Muhammad, communications coordinator for the Council on American-Islamic Relations in Chicago.
(photo: CAIR Chicago)


According to the report, Rauf said there would be little progress until the U.S. acknowledged backing dictators and the U.S. president gave an "America Culpa" speech to the Muslim world.


On June 4, 2009, President Obama gave a speech to the Muslim world from Cairo, in which he stated:

I have come here to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive, and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles – principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings. … So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed. That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn't. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.

Rauf praised Obama for "embracing Islam in the peacemaking process" in his speech. He wrote in the Washington Post:

The historic significance of President Obama's speech to the Muslim world in Cairo cannot be overstated. Never before has an American president spoken to the global Muslim community. His speech marked a major shift in American foreign policy. … In just a few sentences he demolished the phony theory of the 'Clash of Civilizations,' which insists that Islam and the West must always be in conflict. Instead, he declared the United States is not at war with Islam and outlined a plan for how the conflict can be resolved. … He captured the attention of Muslims because, unlike most politicians, he was willing to critique both his own country and Muslims where they fell short of their ideals.

In an interview with BeliefNet on Islam and America, a reporter asked Rauf, "Some Islamic charities are being investigated for terrorist ties. Have you seen what you consider to be reputable Islamic charities being financially damaged?"

"We believe that a certain portion of every charity has been legitimate," he responded. "To say that you have connections with terrorism is a very gray area. It's like the accusation that Saddam Hussein had links to Osama bin Laden. Well, America had links to Osama bin Laden – does that mean that America is a terrorist country or has ties to terrorism?"

In 2004, Rauf participated in a 30-second advertisement, broadcast on Arabic television, in which he apologized for alleged abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.


The Times reported Rauf said he believes "Islamic terrorists do not come from another moral universe – that they arise from oppressive societies that he feels Washington had a hand in creating."


Scheduled speakers at the "No 9/11 Mosque" rally include:

Nonie Darwish, former Muslim, founder of Arabs for Israel and author of "Now They Call Me Infidel" and "Cruel and Unusual Punishment"

Simon Deng, Sudanese ex-slave and campaigner for human rights for Sudanese Christians

James Lafferty of the Virginia Anti-Shariah Task Force

Anders Gravers of Stop Islamisation of Europe, or SIOE

Geller will host the event with SIOA Associate Director Robert Spencer, best-selling author and director of Jihad Watch.

"The only Muslim center that should be built in the shadow of the World Trade Center is one that is devoted to expunging the Quran and all Islamic teachings of the violent jihad that they prescribe, as well as all hateful texts and incitement to violence," Geller said in a release announcing the protest.



As WND reported last year, readers of various blogs have been outraged at the news of the mosque. Comments included the following:

Muslims are doing this only to see if they get away with it. It's the way Islam spreads in every country these days, like a cancer – through incremental totalitarianism. In this case, they'll quietly open the mosque, then, as they get away with it, they'll ramp up their outrages until someone finally points it out. At that time, their lawyers, backed by the ACLU and various liberal organizations, will pounce.

This is not different than allowing the Nazis to establish their headquarters and propaganda office in NYC in 1938. How come people could tell right from wrong then and not now?

What bonehead allowed this to happen?

That's disgusting. That truly is low. I feel bad for the people who lost family members.

This is outrageous. I just don't have words.

You've got to be kidding me. If this is true, our beloved country is already gone. We no longer have the America I know and love.

Who wants to bet this place becomes a "tourist attraction" for Muslims? This mosque will become one of Islam's holiest shrines as it sits upon the site of their greatest modern military victory.

Good idea. Maybe terrorists will be less likely to bomb this area if there's a mosque there.

(Note: Concerned individuals may e-mail Mayor Michael Bloomberg, call his office at (212) 639-9675 or fax (212) 788-8123. Manhattan's Community Board 1 may be reached by e-mail, by phone at (212) 442-5050 or by fax at (212) 442-5055.)

Link to original article is here

The short and long term effects of Jihad, soft, hard and stealth. A must read!

Please read this entire article from Gates of Vienna. If you have read
some of the past articles here at patriot's Corner you will recall that I
have mentioned Jihad, and Stealth Jihad countless times. As you read
through this article, the meaning and how Islam is using jihad in it's
varying forms, is slowly laying waste to the United States and the West.
We may win most of the battles in the war on terror, but Islam may win
the war unless the West is shaken awake by a sudden, violent
catastrophic event(s) caused by Islam. I would really like to see in my
lifetime that we in the West wake up to what Islam is slowly stealing from
us, our freedom and liberty. Our freedom of speech to speak out against
the horrors that are caused by Islam, Islamic terrorists, Islamic wars and
all out acts of aggresion. The wholesale persecution of women and the
minorities that occur because of Islam, and through Islam. There is no
hope in Islam or shariah law. The only true hope is through our freedom
of speech and then defeating Islam wherever it spawns. There is no
middle ground with or within Islam. Convert, live a horrible life of
dhimmitude or die. These are the only 'choices' Islam has or will offer us.



Gates of Vienna

Baron Bodissey

The Caliphate-in-Waiting


The current Constitution is an “obstacle” — it can’t get much more overt than that, can it?


The Constitution of the European Union. I added this here for clarification.
Read the entire article and you see what baron is saying. (PatriotUSA)

So we Westerners are gradually being Islamized, sliding imperceptibly closer every year to the rule of Islamic law. What will it be like for us when we get there? For those who decide to convert — or “revert” — to Islam, it will be no problem (at least for the men). Show up at the mosque for prayers, give up pork and beer (at least where anyone can see you) , marry your four wives, and remember which hand to wipe yourself with — that’s about it.

For those who decline to be Muslims, a life of dhimmitude awaits. If you are lucky, your status under the new regime will be graciously tolerated, as long as you behave yourself and pay the poll tax. FACT International describes the conditions enjoyed by infidels in Morocco, which is probably about the best you can hope for:

Non-Muslims Enjoy Religious Freedom in Morocco

Government protects rights of religious minorities within tolerant Morocco’s borders.

Many people wonder what relevance shari’a — Islamic principles — has in the modern world. In Morocco it has influenced national laws, especially the civil code and family law, primarily in a positive sense. Coupled with the country’s tradition of tolerance and openness, this has provided the Moroccan government with a foundation for protecting the rights of religious minorities within its borders.

The law protects these religious spaces from violence. Most importantly, laws allowing freedom of expression and assembly, as well as the ability to worship both privately and publicly, are clearly stated in the Constitution and the Penal Code, both of which were written shortly after Morocco’s independence in 1956.

Morocco’s approximately 3,000 Shi’ites generally assemble freely, and have established organisations like the Organisation of Moroccan Shi’ites, Attawassoul Association in the city of al Housseima, Al Inbiaat Association in Tangier, and Al Ghadir Association in Meknes. Nor have they experienced any problems with holding their rituals publicly.

And for many years, Jews have been practicing their faith safely in synagogues and during regular pilgrimages to local Jewish saints’ shrines all over Morocco. The Christian community has established churches, schools, hospitals and orphanages without interference from the government.

The Catholic Archbishop of Rabat, Vincent Landel, says: “Muslims and Christians coexist and live in peace and fraternity.”

Although active proselytising to Muslims is illegal — a law based on Islamic principles — Archbishop Landel notes that Christians in the country can practice their faith freely. Furthermore, interfaith marriage is allowed, though only for Muslim men: Muslim women’s future spouses are expected to convert to Islam before marriage.

The government tries to maintain and promote positive attitudes regarding religious freedom. It is this peaceful co-existence between religious communities that Morocco hopes to perpetuate in order to be a positive example to the rest of the Muslim world. [emphasis added]

This is what lies in store for formerly infidel countries that move under the Islamic umbrella. The government tries to keep Muslims from doing anything bad to non-Muslims. Non-Muslims are not allowed to try to convert Muslims. And men may not marry into a Muslim family without conversion.

The Moroccan branch of the Ummah is what passes for tolerance in Islam, and it really is the best you can hope for, because it is not mandated by Islamic law. Such beneficent conditions depend entirely on the humane whim of the prince, king, sultan, or emir of the Islamic state in question.

Or the Caliph. Keep an eye on the OIC, because the Secretary General of the OIC is the proto-Caliph. Watch those “collective mechanisms” for protecting peace and security and managing conflict among the member states. It will be interesting to see what they morph into over the next five or ten years.

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This is not good news at all. Tariq Ramadan is a Islamic troll, at best.

Tariq Ramadan To Get U.S. Visa
Douglas Farah



The Grand Mufti and Hitler. This is the creep who started the
Musim Brotherhood. Hitler met with him because he admired
how Islam had persecuted and killed Jews over the centuries.




The Global Muslim Brotherhood Daily Report broke the story that the U.S. State Department Tariq Ramadan's ban from entering the United States. Ramadan , an influential European leader of the Muslim Brotherhood who was long banned because of alleged ties to terrorist activity.

The lifting of the ban, ordered by Secretary of State Clinton, is a significant victory for the Brotherhood, who has sought to frame the issue of Ramadan's exclusion as one of academic freedom rather one of national security. Ramadan was ecstatic, saying on his blog:

"Today’s decision reflects the Obama administration’s willingness to reopen the United States to the rest of the world, and to permit critical debate. Coming after nearly six years of inquiry and investigation, Secretary Clinton’s order confirms what I have affirmed and reaffirmed from day one: the first accusations of terrorist connections (subsequently dropped), then donations to Palestinian solidarity groups, were nothing more than a pretense to prohibit me from speaking critically about American government policy on American soil. The decision brings to an end a dark period in American politics that saw security considerations invoked to block critical debate through a policy of exclusion and baseless allegation. Today I am delighted at the decision."

I am sickened by this decision. it is yet more proof that the
Obama administration does not have a clue of what Tariq 
Ramadan represents, and what the true, vile plan of the Muslim
Brotherhood is. This serpent is well known for saying the things
that people like to hear about Islam and the MB, and completely
meaning and saying something else to his followers.

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Muslim apologists are out after flight 253 disaster averted.

It is so predictable. The MSM and Muslim
apologists getting their message of taqiya
out to deflect any and all responsbility
connecting this near terrorist attack on
flight 253 with Muslims or Islam.


In wake of Flight 253 jihad attempt, yet another Muslim group condemns attacks on "innocents" without defining the term

Thanks to Jihad watch

Some jihadists consider no non-Muslim to be innocent. Thus when a Muslim spokesman says that Islam condemns the killing of innocent people, he hasn't necessarily said anything that would render un-Islamic a jihad attack like the one attempted on Flight 253. But Free Press reporter Niraj Warikoo, who has been covering Muslim activities in the Detroit area for years and giving Muslim spokesmen a free pass on such questions, acts true to form in this piece.

"Nigerian-American Muslims held convention during attack attempt," by Niraj Warikoo for the Detroit Free Press, December 27 (thanks to James):


Hundreds of Nigerian-American Muslims from across the U.S. -- including some from metro Detroit -- had gathered this weekend in Boston, Massachusetts for their annual gathering. It's considered the biggest meeting of Nigerian Muslims in the U.S.

But in the middle of five-day convention came breaking news -- a Nigerian Muslim man attempted a terrorist attack on a Northwest plane descending into Detroit.

The participants were horrified and scrambled to put out a press release strongly condemning the incident, said leaders of the 9th annual national convention of the National Council of Nigerian Muslim Organizations, which ended today.

"It was hard news to take," Muyideen Ibiyemi, chairman of the board of trustees of the National Council, told the Free Press today. "It took us aback."

But Ibiyemi, of Providence, Rhode Island, said the incident has only made him and other Nigerian-American Muslims more committed to spreading the true [sic] of Islam, which he said was about peace and harmony. The focus of the convention this year was about maintaining Islamic traditions among Nigerian Muslims.

"There is no room in the Quran for this type of thing," Ibiyemi said of the attempted terrorist attack by a 23-year-old Nigerian man who is Muslim. "There is no room in Islam for killing innocent people."...

Meanwhile, Ibiyemi said that he and others in his community will continue to preach the correct message of Islam.

"There is no extremism in this religion," he said. "The Prophet, peace be upon him," was not an extremist.

This is an outright lie. For those of us who have the Koran, hadith,
and are constant students of Islam, Islamofacism, we know the truth.
The prophet not an extremist? Depends on how you define extremist.
The prohpet was a murdering pig, a pedophile, slave trader, ruthless
barbarian that gave rise to the Islam that is perverting the world with
violence, persecution and death. He and those who ruled after him laid
waste to numerous countries, societies and cultures. The number
murdered under Islamic rule is in the millions.

"The tenets of Islam are to respect the laws of the country," Ibiyemi
added. "We want to let the world know we won't associate" with terrorism.

Then peacefully assimilate into our country or get the hell out. Islam
is terrorism world wide. That is another lie. Taqiya, using lies and
deception to spread Islam.

Meanwhile, the unindicted co-conspirator CAIR, also true to form, is attempting to shift the focus of attention away from the Islamic doctrines that lead to such attacks and on to Muslims as victims, based on the chimerical threat of a "backlash":

Not my immediate concern. If you want to lessen your security
risks and backlashes then I suggest you convince Muslims to STOP
the 95% of global terrorist attacks they are responsible for.

Dawud Walid, head of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said today that "we're concerned about any security threats."

But he said he's also concerned about profiling of innocent people based on ethnicity and religion, citing today's case in Detroit and a reported case in Arizona where men speaking Arabic were pulled off a plane.

Good! After Flight 253,they should have been pulled off. I am all for
profiling of Muslims, all of them.

"There may be a climate of fear and hysteria" that could result in the profiling of ethnic minorities,
he said. There is an "increased anxiety about people's perceived ethnicities," Walid said.

Islam has brought this upon itself.  I do not, many other do not feel
sorry or empathy for Muslims of Islam. If they are innocent then they
need to become fierce moderates and fight the radical elements that
has taken over Islam. Take some responsibility and action instead
of blaming others for problems created by Muslims and Islam.

Imam Kazeem Agboola, a Nigerian-American Muslim who heads the Muslim Community Center-Detroit, said that "some will call us names, but there's nothing we can do about it." His congregation is predominantly Nigerian.

"We'll be fine," he added. "We'll be fine."

Of course you will.


Jihad watch
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/12/in-wake-of-flight-253-jihad-attempt-yet-another-muslim-group-condemns-attacks-on-innocents-without-d.html

An old argument that Islamic apologists and Muslims never seem to tire of.

Wyoming: Muslims say Fort Hood jihadist misunderstood Islam
From Jihad watch. Robert Spencer is one of the foremost
experts on Islam. This is well worth your time. The facts are
well documented..

Here is the complete article.
Links follow below the feed.


Wyoming: Muslims say Fort Hood jihadist misunderstood Islam


And they add that both Muslims and non-Muslims can misunderstand Islam, usually by taking verses of the Koran that mandate violence against unbelievers "out of context." This excuse is very, very tired at this point, but the obvious rejoinder from reporter Baylie Evans should have been this: Then what are you doing in your mosque here to make sure that all the local Muslims understand the Koran in context and hence do not misunderstand it in the same way that Nidal Hasan (and so many others worldwide) did?

If Baylie Evans had asked that question, the honest answer would have been, Why, nothing. Absolutely nothing.

And that in itself is revealing.

"Local Muslims condemn acts of violence in name of their religion," by Baylie Evans for the Wyoming Tribune Eagle, November 14:

CHEYENNE - One local Muslim, Mohamed Salih, is clear in his feelings toward the Muslim man who allegedly went on a shooting rampage at Fort Hood last week. He deserves to be at the "bottom of the biggest hell," Salih said.

There is a misconception among many non-Muslims that Islam, the religion that Muslims follow, encourages hate and violence. Really, it teaches the opposite, he said.

How could anyone have ever gotten such a crazy idea?

"(Violence) has no place in this religion," he said. "There is no god out there that would accept killing innocent people."

Yes, but who is an innocent person? Jihadists consider no non-Muslim to be innocent. Consequently, it would have been refreshing if Salih had defined his terms, but as usual, no such luck.

And while non-Muslims can misunderstand Islam, so too can Muslims themselves.

Indeed, as we see here every day, Muslim Misunderstanders of Islam abound. And the funny thing is that they all seem to misunderstand it in the same way.

Any person who commits an act of violence in name of Islam gravely misunderstands the religion, Salih said. Terrorists have misunderstood the Islamic duty of jihad, which means struggle.

The "greater jihad" is within one's self, Salih said, against egos and evil within. The "lesser jihad" means actions to defend one's self and family.


Let's get that from an authoritative source. 'Umdat al-Salik is endorsed by the most prestigious authority in Sunni Islam, Al-Azhar University, as a reliable guide to Sunni orthodoxy. It says this:

Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said as he was returning from jihad.

``We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.''

The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b7) is such Koranic verses as:

-1- ``Fighting is prescribed for you'' (Koran 2:216);

-2- ``Slay them wherever you find them'' (Koran 4:89);

-3- ``Fight the idolators utterly'' (Koran 9:36);
and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet
(Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

``I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah'';

and the hadith reported by Muslim,

``To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the whole world and everything in it.''Details concerning jihad are found in the accounts of the military expeditions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), including his own martial forays and those on which he dispatched others. The former consist of the ones he personally attended, some twenty-seven (others say twenty-nine) of them. He fought in eight of them, and killed only one person with his noble hand, Ubayy ibn Khalaf, at the battle of Uhud. On the latter expeditions he sent others to fight, himself remaining at Medina, and these were forty-seven in number.) [...]

The caliph (o25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non-Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: o11.4) -which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself-while remaining in their ancestral religions) (O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High,

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled" (Koran 9.29)


Do the Muslims in Wyoming know these doctrines? Probably. But they go on in the same vein anyway:

Even nations can blur the line between religion and politics, Arshi Nisley, another local Muslim, added.

In some Islamic countries, women are not allowed to own property, divorce or have the same rights as men. But the religion allows women equal treatment and rights.

"I don't think that's religion at all," Nisley said. "I think that's politics."







Uh huh. Rather than regarding women as human beings equal to men, the Koran likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: "Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will" (2:223).

The Koran also declares that a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man: "Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as ye choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her" (2:282).

It allows men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls also: "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice" (4:3).

It rules that a son's inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: "Allah (thus) directs you as regards your children's (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females" (4:11).

Worst of all, the Koran tells husbands to beat their disobedient wives: "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them" (4:34).

It allows for marriage to pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures "shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated" (65:4).

People who have cited passages from the Quran, the religious text of Islam, that seem to encourage violence have taken them out of context, she added.

Even some Bible passages can seem to incite violence when taken out of context.

Uh huh. Actually, while the Bible contains descriptions of violent acts committed in the name of God, nowhere does it teach believers to imitate that violence. Where people are commanded to commit acts of violence, these are commands directed to specific individuals or groups in particular situations; they are not universal commands. The Koran, on the other hand, quite clearly does teach believers to commit acts of violence against unbelievers -- see 2:190-193, 9:5, 9:29, 47:4, etc. There are no equivalents to such open-ended and universal commands, addressed to all believers to fight unbelievers, in the Bible.

And how are those teachings interpreted? In fact there is not a single traditional school of Islamic jurisprudence that does not teach, as the obligation of the Muslim community, warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers. See here for details.

Both Salih and Nisley said they haven't encountered hostility from the local community. In fact, they've felt welcomed. Salih has worked hard to try to educate people about Islam. Violent acts by Muslims set his efforts back, he said.

The religion is already misunderstood by many, and every time a Muslim kills in the name of Islam, it undoes the work that many have done to dispel myths and misinformation. The Fort Hood shooter hurt Muslims twice, Salih said: their country and their religion.

"He is lucky he doesn't have to face Muslims for justice," Salih said.

Interesting statement on many levels.



http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/wyoming-muslims-say-fort-hood-jihadist-misunderstood-islam.html
http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2009/11/14/news/20local_11-14-09.txt

Thw white washing of the Fort Hood tragedy. By our military

Investors.com - Suicide By PC

Highlights from the article in red.

Here is a perfect example of how
this tragedy is getting a white
washing from not only the MSM but
our own military.

"Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey
warns that making the connection between
Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's terrorist act and his
Islamic faith could "cause a backlash against
some of our Muslim soldiers."

So what, and I say that with the truth that
I do not care anymore. How many more
Hasan's are out there waiting for the right
moment or orders to attack? How many
more Americans must die on U.S. soil before
we, they wake up to the reality of Islam?

"It would be an even greater tragedy if our
diversity becomes a casualty here," Casey
said on Sunday's morning shows. Really?
Tell that to the victims of the Muslim terrorist
who shouted "Allahu Akbar!" before pumping
fellow soldiers full of bullets at close range.
Tell it to their grieving families."
















The real tragedy is that diversity and
multiculturalism have played a huge
part in allowing this to happen. We
are so afraid of offending Islam or Muslims
that they just about kill us in our own beds
as we sleep. Yes, that is taking it a bit too
far perhaps but that is how I feel. Islam gets
away with too much and the white washing
that we are seeing with Fort Hood tragedy
should serve as a horrific wake up call about
the truth of Islam; it is an ugly and violent
ideology.

Here is the link for the article.


http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=511805

Get ready for outrage from Muslims: Detroit mosque leader killed.

Detroit mosque leader killed in FBI raids detnews.com The Detroit News

The entire article is here for you to
read. I will withold any comments on
my part until more facts come out in
the next few days. One thing you can
be assured of is that the Muslims and
Muslim Organizations are going to jump
all over this no matter what the total
truth will be. There will be the usual
outrage of racism, racial profiling,
victimhood, persecution and religious
discrimination. This will happen for sure,
no matter what the facts turn out to be.
Note that this happened in Detroit, which
has one of the largest concentrations of
Muslims in the United States.




Paul Egan / The Detroit News


Detroit -- The leader of a Detroit mosque who allegedly espoused violence and separatism was shot and killed Wednesday in an FBI gun battle at a Dearborn warehouse.

Luqman Ameen Abdullah, imam of the Masjid Al-Haqq mosque in Detroit, was being arrested on a raft of federal charges including conspiracy, receipt of stolen goods, and firearms offenses.

Charges were also filed against 11 of Abdullah's followers. Eight were in custody Wednesday night awaiting detention hearings today; three remained at large.

A federal complaint filed Wednesday identified Abdullah, 53, also known as Christopher Thomas, as "a highly placed leader of a nationwide radical fundamentalist Sunni group." His black Muslim group calls itself "Ummah," or the brotherhood, and wants to establish a separate state within the United States governed by Sharia law, Interim U.S. Attorney Terrence Berg and Andrew Arena, FBI special agent in charge in Detroit, said in a joint statement.

"He regularly preaches anti-government and anti-law enforcement rhetoric," an FBI agent wrote in an affidavit. "Abdullah and his followers have trained regularly in the use of firearms, and continue to train in martial arts and sword fighting."

The Ummah is headed nationally by Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rap Brown, who is serving a state sentence for the murder of two police officers in Georgia.

Early Wednesday afternoon, FBI agents and local police from the Joint Terrorism Task Force surrounded a warehouse and trucking firm on Miller Road near Michigan Avenue where Abdullah and four of his followers were hiding, said Special Agent Sandra Berchtold, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Detroit.

When agents entered the warehouse, four of the men obeyed orders to surrender but Abdullah opened fire and was shot to death, Berchtold said. An FBI dog was also shot and killed, she said.

Through a 45-page complaint filed in the case alleges Abdullah "calls his followers to an offensive jihad" and preaches that every Muslim should "have a weapon and should not be scared to use their weapon when needed," charges in the case to not include terrorism or national security crimes.

The complaint further alleged that an armed group known as the "Sutra team" protected the mosque.

In January, when members were evicted from a building on Joy Road for non-payment of property taxes, Detroit police confiscated two firearms, about 40 knives and martial arts weapons from Abdullah's apartment, the complaint alleged.

The mosque then relocated to Clairmount in Detroit, the complaint says.

According to the complaint, Abdullah told an informant that if the FBI came to get him: "I'll just strap a bomb on and blow up everybody." On another occasion, he said: "We've got to take out the U.S. government," the complaint alleges.

David Nu'man of Detroit, who considered himself a friend of Abdullah, said he is skeptical about the allegations.

"It doesn't seem to be of his character," said Nu'man, who had attended the mosque on Joy Road but was not a member.

Ihsan Bagby, the general secretary of the Muslim Alliance of North America, said Abdullah was a member of the Lexington, K.Y. based group, and his shooting shocked the African American Muslim community nationwide.

"We want to know what happened," said Bagby. "We had no inkling of any kind of criminal activity. This is a complete shock to all of us."

The others charged are:

• Mohammad Abdul Salaam, also known as Gregory Stone, 45, of Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes and sale or receipt of stolen goods.

• Abdullah Beard, also known as Detric Lamont Driver, 37, of Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Abdul Saboor, also known as Dwayne Edward Davis, 37, of Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Mujahid Carswell, also known as Mujahid Abdullah, 30, of Detroit and Ontario, Canada, with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Adam Ibraheem, 38, of Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Gary Laverne Porter, 59, of Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes and possession of firearms by a convicted felon.

• Ali Abdul Raqib, 57, of Detroit with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Mohammad Alsahi, also known as Mohammad Palestine, 33, of Ontario, Canada, with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Yassir Ali Khan, 30, of Ontario, Canada, and Warren, with conspiracy to commit federal crimes.

• Mohammad Abdul Bassir, also known as Franklin D. Roosevelt Williams, 50, of Ojibway Correctional Facility with conspiracy to commit federal crimes, sale or receipt of stolen goods, mail fraud, supplying firearms to felons, possession of weapons by a felon, and altering or removing motor vehicle identification numbers.

• A.C. Pusha, charged in a separate complaint late Wednesday with conspiracy to receive and sell stolen goods.

Salaam, Saboor, Porter, Beard, Ibraheem, Raqib, and Pusha all appeared in U.S. District Court in Detroit late Wednesday afternoon. Bassir is in state custody. Others charged are still at large.

Prior to the gunfight in Dearborn, the FBI executed search warrants at 4467 Tireman and 9278 Genesee in Detroit, officials said.

Yellow police tape was put up outside the Dearborn warehouse and a Dearborn police car was parked outside.

pegan@detnews.com (313) 222-2069 David Josar, Charlie LeDuff, Oralandar Brand-Williams and George Hunter contributed.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20091028/METRO/910280436/Leader-of-Detroit-mosque-killed--11-charged-in-FBI-raids