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An Open Letter to Pamela Geller (Updated #2)

 An Open Letter to Pamela Geller (Updated #2)



Updated straight from Gates of Vienna and this will continue to run here as this continues to develop and build. More have signed on and you should go to Geller and Spencer's sites and look and some of the NASTY comments left by their followers. How truly sad for them and the global counterjihad movement.. Links will be copied in later as I am short for time till very late tonight so forgive me for that!

Update: Links are done and working but they look a bit odd and I am in too much pain to wrestle with it further tonight. Just took pains meds and hitting the rack. (PatriotUSA)

Update (7/2/2011 1:15pm EDT): Bumped again, after additional changes.

Added one from France, and one of the signatories has asked to be removed.

Update (3:49pm): another signatory has asked to be removed. (5:55pm) added an American.


I’ve bumped this post to the top and will keep it there for a while because so many additional signatories, including several Americans, have asked that their names be added to the list. Scroll to the bottom to see who’s there — some may surprise you.

Update (3:04am EDT): Added one more. (3:24am EDT) Added another one. (3:33am EDT) Added a Dane.

Update (7/1/2011 11:51am EDT): While I was asleep, eight more people signed on. That gives us a total of 27. Some of the names will be familiar to you…

Also: Europe News should never have been on the signature list. That was an error on my part, and I apologize.

(3:56pm EDT): Added another American. (9:55pm EDT): Yet another American.

As most readers already know, earlier today Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs posted a prominent repudiation of the English Defence League, including references to their alleged infiltration by “neo-fascists”.

A group of Counterjihad bloggers and writers has joined together to publish this open letter to Ms. Geller. Most of us are Europeans, but not all — we also have signatories from the United States, Canada, and Australia.

If you are a blogger or a writer and want to add your signature to this letter, please send your name and URL to me (unspiek [at] chromatism [dot] net), or to the proprietors of other sites where it has been posted.

Update (9:13pm EDT): Two more signatories have been added to the list. (12:35am 7/1) One more added. (12:49am) Added another. (1:16am EDT) Added one more.

Dear Ms. Geller,

We the undersigned are writing to register our astonishment and dismay at your public denunciation of the English Defence League, and in particular your reference to the “neo-fascists that had infiltrated the administration of the group”.

This is a grossly inaccurate and unfair slander against the leaders and membership of the EDL, who have never wavered in their refusal to include neo-Nazis, fascists, or adherents of any other ideology that seeks to divide people based on their ethnicity. The core mission of the EDL has always been, and remains, to stop the encroachment of sharia and Islamic fascism.

For the past two years the English Defence League has been on the front lines of the resistance to sharia and militant Islam in England. Its leaders have put their own lives in danger by doing so. They live under constant threat, not just from murderous Muslim zealots, but from their own government, which has harassed and arrested them repeatedly. Tommy Robinson, the leader of the EDL, has been arrested multiple times, and is currently facing trumped-up charges designed to put him and the EDL out of action.

To paraphrase Geert Wilders: “I was dragged to court by leftist and Islamic organizations that were bent not only on silencing me but on stifling public debate.” The EDL is being dragged into a kangaroo court of uninformed public opinion. The more people’s fears can be raised, the more quickly debate can be smothered.

In the final analysis, as Geert Wilders points out, the strength of our community depends on the freedom we feel to “enter our convictions in the open lists to win or lose”.

All communities inevitably experience conflicts based on differences of opinion. It is crucial that we approach one another’s efforts in good faith, presume the other’s efforts to be well-meaning until conclusively proven otherwise, support initiatives made by others that further our common cause, and refuse to be dragged into parsing ever more finely our differences.

Our ideal of the “perfect” can kill any merely “good enough” effort.

Your unfortunate statements were picked up and repeated by other websites and blogs, some of them quite prominent and well-respected. This has done harm to our common cause, and has driven a completely needless wedge between the American and European wings of the international Counterjihad.

To help heal the damage that has been done, we insist that you apologize in a public forum to the English Defence League.

Its leaders and members are heroes, and their organization is widely considered a beacon of hope in Europe. All Europeans who resist the Islamization of their countries look to the EDL for inspiration, and all of them stand in solidarity with it in its struggle.

We strongly request that you reconsider your deplorable words and withdraw them.

Sincerely yours,

3 Comments - Share Yours!:

Anonymous said...

dear friends:

the time line of the "controversy" between pamela geller at "atlas shrugs" and ned may at "gates of vienna" is laid out below.

it is significant to know that pamela filed her first post at 1.45 a.m., that tommy robinson filed his reply at the e.d.l. facebook a little later, and that pamela published his facebook reply about 11.30 a.m. or so (exact times at posts), and that ned may did not launch his attack until the matter was settled, sometime in mid or late afternoon the same day.

this was after the exchange between pamela geller and t. robinson was over, and after tommy robinson had acknowledged her remarks as substantial and true.

john jay
http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com

p.s. ned may has never published/acknowledged tommy robinson's reply, the one posted at the e.d.l. facebook.

Anonymous said...

dear friend:

the time line of the "controversy" between pamela geller at "atlas shrugs" and ned may at "gates of vienna" is laid out below.

it is significant to know that pamela filed her post about 1.45 a.m., that tommy robinson filed his reply at the e.d.l. facebook a little later, and that pamela had published his "facebook" reply at her blog at about 11.30 a.m. or so (exact times at posts), and that ned may did not launch his attack upon geller/spencer until the matter was settled, sometime in mid or late afternoon the same day.

this was well after the exchange between pamela and tommy robinson was over, and after tommy robinson had acknowledged her remarks as substantial and true.

read the posts and tommy's reply, and judge for yourself.

john jay
http://wintersoldier2008/typepad.com

p.s. ned may has never published/acknowledged tommy robinson's reply, the one posted at edl's facebook, nor has he dealt with the implications of same.

Anonymous said...

sirs:

a fuller exposition of my earlier comment, which doesn't seem to be up yet.

http://wintersoldier.2008.typepad.com/summer_patriot_winter_sol/2011/07/if-pamela-gellers-early-remarks-concerns-about-the-edl-were-ill-considered-then-why-did-they-find-su.html.

john jay
http://wintersoldier2008.typepad.com