Nine points on muslim immigartion in Europe: These problems are already here in the USA

The translation is a bit rough on this but the you will have no problems understanding the points being made in regard to muslim immigration in Europe and the problems that muslims are causing. Note that other immigrant groups ARE NOT causing problems like the muslims are causing.

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Are You a Sarrazinista?
By Baron Bodissey/Gates Of Vienna

Are You a Sarrazinista?

Kitman has distilled nine points from a television presentation given by Thilo Sarrazin, the well-known Islam-critic in Germany:

Thilo Sarrazin: Nine Conclusions Regarding Muslim Immigration

1. No immigration policy, in whatever shape or form, is able to solve the key problem of our demographic development.

2. Whoever believes that problems of integration can be solved through more education alone will compel us live a lie.

3. All immigrants are not alike. So far immigrants from Eastern Europe, India, China, and Vietnam pose no integrational problems at all in their second generation.

4. All the important economic and cultural problems of integration in Europe are concentrated around immigrants from Muslim countries. The successful integration of Muslim immigrants already living among us has to be given absolute priority over further immigration from Muslim countries.
5. Muslim immigrants have a troubling tendency to form parallel societies and are almost entirely unable to intermarry with their new countrymen.

6. It is the Islamic culture which is responsible for these problems, not the ethnic background. This culture is only marginally compatible with secular Western society.

7. The problems in economic and cultural integration of immigrants from Islamic countries mean that they have an unquestionably negative impact on the host society.

8. The European welfare-state model is not free of blame. Even without any employment, basic social security benefits far exceed the income Muslim immigrants could obtain in their home country.

9. Immigrants who reject our culture, have no education, and are mostly attracted by the social benefits, and the prospect of bringing in large numbers of family relatives will cost our society dearly.


The subtitled video and an accompanying transcribed:



Full text:


I have therefore summarised my main points as follows:

1. No immigration policy, in whatever shape or form, is able to solve the key problem of our demographic development. Namely, that each generation is around one third smaller than the one that came before. And that within this declining number of children, the relative number of children stemming from uneducated households is constantly on the increase.


2. Education is very important. But education is quickly becoming a new fetish of our society, and whoever believes that these problems can be solved through more education alone will compel us to live a lie.


3. Immigrants are not simply immigrants.


Immigrants from Eastern Europe, India, China, and Vietnam pose no integrational problems at all in their second generation. By that time, these immigrants have a higher level of education and a better employment rate than do indigenous Germans. 10-11 million immigrants in Germany, and their descendants have no integrational problems in their second generation. They constitute an economic and cultural benefit to Germany.


4. All important economic and cultural problems of integration are concentrated around the 4-6 million immigrants from Muslim countries. The successful integration of Muslim immigrants already living among us has to be given absolute priority over further immigration from Muslim countries. When it comes to these immigrants, education and employment in the 2nd and 3rd generation is far below that of Germans, other immigrant groups, and their descendants.


And nothing seems to support the case for any sufficient improvements over time in this matter.


5. A troubling tendency to form parallel societies is evident. Only 3 percent of the 2nd generation of Turkish immigrants marry a German citizen, whereas 70 percent of Russian immigrants intermarry.


6. As far as I can tell, these problems are not caused by their ethnic background. It is the Islamic culture which is responsible for the problems. This culture shapes the values and lifestyle of a large part of the Muslim immigrants, and is only marginally compatible with secular Western society.


This is particularly evident in Great Britain, with the very dissimilar integration of immigrants from India on the one hand and Pakistan and Bangladesh on the other. These problems burden not just Germany, but all the European countries with a significant number of Muslim immigrants.


7. The problems in economic and cultural integration of immigrants from Islamic countries mean that the economic and societal impact of immigration from these countries is unquestionably negative to the host society.


As long as the cultural make-up of these immigrants does not undergo a fundamental change, they will create additional economic and social problems, not ease the demographic shifts.


8. The German and European welfare-state model is not free of blame. The basic social security benefits for an immigrant family in Germany far exceed any realistic appraisal of the income they could obtain in, say, eastern Turkey or Lebanon without any family member being employed. The vastly improved integration of the same immigrant groups in the US, is mainly due to the fact that they there either provide for themselves, leave the country, or never arrive in the first place.


9. The economic growth in later months and the increased demand for work has lead to a short-sighted debate about immigration policy. Is it not ironic? For the past 45 years our self-imposed demographic sinkhole draws closer. With the precision of clockwork, and the pace and weight of an iceberg. And now that this sinkhole shows itself in the labor market, everybody seems frantically astonished.


The highest birthrate in Germany, was achieved in 1965. That generation is now 45 years old. They are at the peak of their career and productivity and are now entering the so-called “declining years”. Who will assume their duties?


1.45 million 45-year-olds in Germany currently, but only 950,000 20-year olds and 600,000 one-year-olds.


Haste does not lead anywhere; reflection is demanded, and learning from our own mistakes.


Immigrants who reject our culture; have no education; are mostly attracted by the social benefits and the prospect of bringing in large numbers of family relatives… They will in the long run cost our society more than they pay into it.


Many people now want to implement a point-based system or use the American green-card model for immigrants. I am in favor of this. If Germany had had a system resembling that of Australia, New Zealand, Canada, or the US, with high barriers for the unskilled, and no social benefits for immigrants, then around 90 percent of the Muslim immigrants now living in Germany would never have come here. I would like to stress this point.


The original post is here from Gates Of Vienna.