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Torture, Islam and why it is all right within Islam and many Muslims

This is the latest from Traveler. I am playing a bit of catching up as I only have one computer right now as the other is getting a solid beating from our computer wizard here in town. If you need some more proof that torture is 'acceptable' in Islam, here it is. Backed by the Qur'an, torture is never out of style nor is it in danger of disappearing from being used within Islam.




Torture and Islam
By Traveler

♦ Islam is not fundamentally opposed to torture in certain circumstances, as long as it is the Muslim party applying it.

The Qur'an:

Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides..."

Qur'an (8:12) - "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them."

Qur'an (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

How Allah feels about non-Muslims naturally determines the attitude of devout Muslims. In the Qur'an, Muhammad explicitly uses Allah's hatred of unbelievers to motivate his people to Jihad:

Qur'an (9:73): "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."

From the Hadith:

Muslim (16:4131) - They were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. Muhammad had two killers put to death, not in the way of "an eye-for-an-eye," but in a more agonizing manner.

Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses that he has adultery (four times, as required). Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.

Bukhari (11:626) - "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.'

The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'" Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.

Ibn Ishaq 436 - When Muhammad wished to attack the Meccan army at Badr, his men captured two slaves who were carrying water for the caravans and brought them into his presence.

They were interrogated under torture as Muhammad stood praying: “…they brought them along and questioned them while the apostle was standing praying… The people were dismayed at their report…and so they beat them. When they were beaten soundly…"

Ibn Ishaq 734 - When Muhammad’s favorite wife Aisha was accused of adultery, he launched an investigation that included the brutal interrogation of a female slave: "So the apostle called Burayra to ask her, and Ali got up and gave her a violent beating, saying “'Tell the Apostle the truth.'”

Ibn Ishaq 595 - Muhammad orders that a man have his tongue cut out.

Ibn Ishaq 764 - After amassing a powerful army, Muhammad sent his forces to take the peaceful farming community of Khaybar by surprise. In the aftermath, he was dissatisfied with the amount of plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer, Kinana, might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:

When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.”

Kinana's untimely death left a beautiful young widow named Saffiya, whom Muhammad then able to “married”.

Abu Dawud (10:294) - In addition to the right of men to beat their wives over disobedience, children are to be beaten as well if they don't pray. "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then beat him for prayer."


The life of Muhammad teaches that torture is sanctioned in cases of interrogation. The prophet of Islam did not stop his people from beating and abusing individuals in his presence when information was needed, whether it concerned a matter of sexual impropriety or the location of wealth that could be looted.

In at least one case of the latter, he is noted to have directly ordered the torture.

Torture is also allowed when putting people to death. Rather than prescribing quick execution of captives, there were times in which Muhammad ordered his men to make a victim's death as slow and agonizing as possible.

In one case, Muhammad's men literally pulled apart the body of an elderly woman named Umm Qirfa by tying her limbs to camels then sent in opposite directions (Ibn Ishaq 980).

♦ One of the most influential Shi'a religious leaders in Iran recently extended the validity of torture to the practice of rape of prisoners, as long as it is in defense of Islam. Mesbah-Yazdi said that it was advisable for the rapist to "perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner."

Mesbah-Yazdi went on to add that "If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."

According to the cleric, "If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus." When asked if the rape of men and young boy was considered sodomy, he said, "No, because it is not consensual."

♦ Muslim apologists often tell a different story in the West, where general phrases are designed to strategically project the impression that they oppose torture in and of itself, thus attracting the support of a broader coalition. (CAIR's short-lived 2006 "Campaign against Torture" is one of the best examples of this). The scope of their efforts, however, rarely extend beyond condemning Western countries in general (and the US in particular).

Sympathies are also tellingly limited to the alleged treatment of Muslim terror detainees.

In fact, these organizations have very little to say about ending the less ambiguous and far more brutal human rights violations practised by Muslim governments, even though the victims there are usually Muslim as well (such as the cleric Mesbah-Yazdi's unfortunate victims of rape).

The goal of these "anti-torture" campaigns is not an end to torture, but rather an attempt to capture the moral high ground on a controversial issue by exploiting Western attitudes - with no regard for the victims of true torture.

Two high profile stories:

* April 2004: Muslim seminary students in Pakistan tortured a Christian man, 19-year-old Javaid Anjum, for five days and nights to force him to convert to Islam. They had falsely accused Javaid of stealing their water pump. His captors dumped his totured body outside of the local police station.

Javaid died in the hospital shortly after 2 a.m. on May 2, 2004.
(I have deliberately omitted his horrific autopsy report- Vin).

* January 20th 2006: A Parisian Jew named Ilan Halimi.was lured to a nearby apartment block by a 17 year old girl. Once inside he was set upon by a gang of men and tortured for 24 days.

During that time, the captors had rung Ilans mother many times to attempt to extract a ransom from her. They would recite the Koran to her, with the sounds of her son screaming in the background.

On February 13, Ilan was found naked, tied and handcuffed to a tree near a railroad track in the Parisian outskirts, with burns from acid and flammable liquid covering 80% of his body, with multiple stab wounds, as well as with one severed ear and toe. On the way to the hospital, he died from his wounds.

Ilan had always dreamed of living in Jerusalem. Below is a very touching tribute to Ilan and his burial in Jerusalem and a very emotional speech by a Rabbi. (With subtitles).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4qbuNKuGY


Left: Ilan Halimi Right: Javaid Anjum

This from the so called 'Religion of Peace.'

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