FORCED CONVERSION AND ISLAM

This is from Traveler and as usual, a superb job on showing another ugly side of islam. With islam you can convert, live as a 3rd class person at best, or just be executed which seems to happen quite a bit with islam.


"Muslims are commanded to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, convert them to Islam, or in a permanent state of subjugation under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option."


I would rather die fighting the perversion of islam than convert. For me, that will never be an option.

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FORCED CONVERSION AND ISLAM
By Traveler

Muslims are commanded to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, convert them to Islam, or in a permanent state of subjugation under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option.

♦ The Qur'an:

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.

Qur'an (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below.

Qur'an (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion" This confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam.

Qur'an (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."

♦ From the Hadith:

Sahih Muslim (1:33) The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah..." The last part is the Shahada, or profession of faith in Islam.

Sahih Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists [Christians...], invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them"

Bukhari (8:387) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.'"

Bukhari (53:392) - "While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."

Bukhari (2:24) - "Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Bukhari (60:40) - "...:And fight them till there is no more affliction (i.e. no more worshiping of others along with Allah)." 'Affliction' of Muslims is explicitly defined here being a condition in which others worship a different god other than Allah. Muslims are commanded to use violence to 'rectify' the situation.

Bukhari (59:643) - "Testify that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, or else I will chop off your neck!" Words of a military leader that Muhammad sent on an expedition with the mission of destroying a local religion in Yemen.

Ibn Ishaq 959 - Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.” So the men accepted Islam as they were invited. The text goes on to say that Khalid taught the al-Harith about Islam after their "conversion," proving that it was based on fear of slaughter rather than a free and intelligent decision.

♦ Following his flirtation with preaching relative peace and tolerance at Mecca - a 13-year disaster that netted less than 100 followers (mostly friends and family) - Muhammad changed tactics during the last ten years of his life, as he obtained power. Near the end, he summed things up for his followers by telling them that he had been commanded by Allah to fight unbelievers until they spoke the Shahada (profession of faith in Islam).

♦ During his later years, Muhammad did not seem at all bothered by conversions that were made under obvious duress. Mecca was a city whose residents and leaders detested him. Yet nearly all of them "converted" to Islam the day that he conquered them with an army so dominant that little resistance was offered. These even included his sworn enemies of Abu Sufyan and his wife Hind.

Anyone who is familiar with their life to that point would find it quite a stretch to believe that their "religious epiphany" just happened to coincide with the sword at their throat (according to Muhammad's biographer, the exact words spoken to Abu Sufyan during his "acceptance" of Islam were "Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of Allah before you lose your head" - Ibn Ishaq 814).

♦ Meccans who would not change their religion were forcibly expelled from the city following that last Haj (Quran 9:5). The Christians and Jews living in Arabia suffered the same fate on Muhammad's order (after his death). The choice was given to them to either accept Islam or leave their land at the point of a sword (Sahih Muslim 19:4366).

♦ The Jews at Khaybar were not at war with Muhammad when he ordered his warriors to attack them. Even his faithful son-in-law, Ali, whom he chose to head the mission was somewhat perplexed as to the pretext on which they were to assault this peaceful farming community so far away from Medina:

Muhammad said: 'Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory', and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 'Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?' Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 'Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger' (Sahih Muslim 31:5917)

The Jews were caught entirely be surprise, of course. Their wealth was stolen and their women and children distributed as slaves by the prophet of Islam to his men. Muhammad even took a woman for himself (after ordering the death of her husband).

♦ Before his death, Muhammad sent his warriors against pagan Arab tribes, such as the al-Harith, demanding that they either convert to Islam or be wiped out (they opted for the Religion of Peace). On his deathbed, he cursed Christians and Jews (Bukhari 8:427).

♦ Muslims are taught to follow in the way of Muhammad.
A Muslim under the reign of Umar put it this way "Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, has ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone or give Jizya (i.e. tribute)" Bukhari (53:386).

♦.Down through the centuries Muslims have forced Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, pagans and others to accept Islam, either by bluntly offering them death as an alternative, or by making their lives so miserable (ie. taxes, denial of rights...) that the conquered convert to Islam under the strain.

♦ Some Muslims might tell you that forced conversion was a thing of the past and it doesn’t happen now… WRONG.

2ND February 2007, Pakistan: A young Christian woman was abducted by a Muslim man and was held for ten days. She was raped multiple times and forcibly converted to Islam. Despite a complaint from the victim’s father, the police have not yet taken any action.

* 26th June 2008: Pakistan: Saba and Anila Younas, both Christian, were abducted by a group of Muslims, and forced to marry and convert to Islam.

When the matter came before the court, Main Naeem Sardar, District and Sessions Judge Muzaffargarh, on July 12, ordered that the girls are not to be remanded to their Christian parents because the girls are Muslim now.

* 13th June 2009, Bangladesh: A Hindu woman Koli Goswami 21, was asleep in her bed when five Muslim men broke into the family home. They vandalized the home and abducted her. They attacked other family members that attempted to intervene

After some investigation by authorities, Kolis mother was told that she had converted to Islam after a long mutual love affair with one of the abductors. Her parents eventually gave up pressuring authorities for answers, Kolis mother stated, "we are afraid we may further be attacked and our adult daughters abducted."

* 20th January 2010, Saudi Arabia: Joselyn Cabrera, a Filipino Catholic nurse working at Riyadh hospital said, After some months, employers give you an ultimatum, telling you to become Muslim to keep your job,” she said. “For us, it is hard to make such a choice, but if we don’t, we become the victims of abuse.

In her 10 years in the kingdom, she said she saw at least 50 forced conversions at work.. She tells of another woman that refused to convert that was raped, became pregnant and jailed un Saudi Law, that miscarried because of harsh conditions in the prison. Next month, she is scheduled to appear before a court, which could sentenced her to 100 lashes.

* March 30, 2010 London: Susceptible teenage girls who are forced to convert to Islam by Muslim men are being protected by police.

“Aggressive conversions” at university campuses are being discovered and police are looking into finding the groups of men responsible for beating up girls who are forced to drop their university courses. The Hindu forum of Britain has claimed that Hindu and Sikh girls are the primary targets of these terrorizing men who lure girls and take them out on dates before revealing to them that they must convert.

Since Muslims believe so sincerely that their religion is truth, they often can't help but feel, on some level, that forced conversion is more of a favor done to the subject - a case of the end justifying the means..

(sources: trop.com, catholic.org, asianews.it,.creepingsharia.co)