This week, Tuesady to be more specific, the SCOTUS will hear arguments against this statute from Human rights organizations who are seeking to have it struck down, arguing that it is infringing on their ability to provide support to groups designated as Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Even if the group is known to support terrorist activities, these dullards and rocket scientists still want to be able to be able to provide other support to these groups—typically because they want to support the non-violent activities of the group. Duh, what is wrong with this picture? I am sure the mullah obamaham and his Islamosypathizing administration would love to see the SCOTUS strike this down. That way it would be so much easier to get benevolent aid to the likes of Hizbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, Jamaat ul-Fuqra, and other terrorist groups. Isn't the United Nations of Islam already doing this? The article is quite long but I encourage you to read as much of it as possible.
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Material Support at the Supreme Court
by Stephen I. Landman
IPT News
As we reported late last year, the Supreme Court has recently agreed to hear a challenge to a critical national security tool—the material support statute. As we draw closer to Tuesday's oral arguments, the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT) has been closely following the legal proceedings. In particular, we have focused our analysis on the practical effect that the eventual ruling may have on America's fight against international terrorist organizations.
It has long been thought axiomatic that, as Arizona U.S. Sen. Jon Kyl once explained during Congressional hearings:
"Foreign organizations that engage in terrorist activity are so tainted by their criminal conduct that any contributions to such an organization facilitates that conduct."
U.S. law enforcement took this principle as a green light, using the material support statute in over 150 cases, with a conviction rate nearing 70 percent. Indeed, this statute has become an incredible tool in the hands of federal prosecutors seeking to shut down the support network of terrorist groups. However, it has not been without controversy.
Despite its effectiveness, the material support provision has been attacked numerous times since its enactment, resulting in a multitude of legal challenges and legislative amendments, all aimed at producing a statute that could be used to destroy the terrorist support structure while not infringing on Constitutional rights.
Now, with the Supreme Court set to rule on the validity of certain provisions of the statute, we finally have an opportunity to shut the door to frivolous litigation from individuals who simply want to provide support to groups that they sympathize with, regardless of their status as Foreign Terrorist Organizations.
The petitioners in this case—a retired judge, a doctor, a human rights organization, and several nonprofit groups—were engaged in advocacy and support for the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE). Although the petitioners were engaged in these activities for quite some time, they were forced to cease on October 8, 1997, once the U.S. State Department designated the PKK and LTTE as "Foreign Terrorist Organizations" (FTO). Realizing that U.S. law now proscribed their efforts on behalf of the PKK and LTTE, on March 18, 1998 petitioners filed a complaint in federal court to bar the government from enforcing the statute against them. Now, after more than a decade of legal wrangling, the case has made its way to the Supreme Court. While a more detailed analysis of the policy arguments involved can be found in IPT's report, we briefly summarize the primary arguments.
Opponents of the law are seeking to have it struck down, arguing that it is infringing on their ability to provide support to groups designated as Foreign Terrorist Organizations. While there are few people who would argue that they should be able to provide "safe houses," "false documentation or identification," "communications equipment," "facilities," "weapons," "lethal substances," or "explosives" to terrorist groups, there are plenty of people who continue to believe that they should be able to provide other support to these groups—typically because they want to support the non-violent activities of the group.
Those in support of a broad ban on support to terrorist groups recognize, as Congress did when it passed the material support law, that the designation process was intended to make FTOs "radioactive." While providing an exception for legitimate First Amendment protected activities, the law is intended to ban practically all other support, whether violent or non-violent, to designated FTOs. Continue reading
The opening brief of the Humanitarian Law Project can be found here
The Government's brief can be found here
Investgative Project on Terrorism
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China Confidential: Israelis disgusted by ludicrous charges against Navy Seals.
Israelis Shocked by Persecution of SEALS
Thanks to China Confidential and Bare Naked Islam
In Israel, almost all of the people realize
the value and necessity of a strong military,
and the need for special operations outfits
like the Navy Seals. Leave it to the America
hating president, the Mullah Obamaham to
allow such a perversion of justice in our
country.
Israelis are shocked by the U.S. Navy's insane persecution of Navy SEALS for allegedly ... punching ... a top terrorist monster in Iraq following his capture.
1. In Israel the terrorist would most likely have been shot to death, and the commandos would have been honored with medals.
2. Had the terrorist been taken alive for some reason, he would rightly have been treated roughly if the situation called for such treatment.
Not one mainstream media outlet has challenged the very idea that a member of the armed forces could be brought up on charges for ... punching ... a terrorist.
So it goes in brain dead America. SEALS are accused and arraigned while enemy combatant terrorists ... who murder and mutilate Americans ... are given the rights and privileges of American citizens, as shown by the Obama administration's disgusting decision to bring the mass-murdering 9/11 mastermind to New York City for a civilian court trial.
Israelis have the utmost respect for SEALS. Shayetet 13 is the Israeli naval commando equivalent--an elite special forces unit that was originally designated and trained to perform naval raids and underwater commando operations. Nowadays, S-13 is also an elite counter-terror unit that specializes in covert operations deep within enemy territory, combining assault by sea, land and air.
China Confidential
http://chinaconfidential.blogspot.com/
Bare Naked Islam
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/navy-seals-to-be-court-martialed-for-giving-a-muslim-terrorist-who-killed-4-americans-a-bloody-lip/
Thanks to China Confidential and Bare Naked Islam
In Israel, almost all of the people realize
the value and necessity of a strong military,
and the need for special operations outfits
like the Navy Seals. Leave it to the America
hating president, the Mullah Obamaham to
allow such a perversion of justice in our
country.
Israelis are shocked by the U.S. Navy's insane persecution of Navy SEALS for allegedly ... punching ... a top terrorist monster in Iraq following his capture.
Navy Seals Jolly Roger
1. In Israel the terrorist would most likely have been shot to death, and the commandos would have been honored with medals.
2. Had the terrorist been taken alive for some reason, he would rightly have been treated roughly if the situation called for such treatment.
Not one mainstream media outlet has challenged the very idea that a member of the armed forces could be brought up on charges for ... punching ... a terrorist.
So it goes in brain dead America. SEALS are accused and arraigned while enemy combatant terrorists ... who murder and mutilate Americans ... are given the rights and privileges of American citizens, as shown by the Obama administration's disgusting decision to bring the mass-murdering 9/11 mastermind to New York City for a civilian court trial.
Israelis have the utmost respect for SEALS. Shayetet 13 is the Israeli naval commando equivalent--an elite special forces unit that was originally designated and trained to perform naval raids and underwater commando operations. Nowadays, S-13 is also an elite counter-terror unit that specializes in covert operations deep within enemy territory, combining assault by sea, land and air.
China Confidential
http://chinaconfidential.blogspot.com/
Bare Naked Islam
http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/navy-seals-to-be-court-martialed-for-giving-a-muslim-terrorist-who-killed-4-americans-a-bloody-lip/
An open letter to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. From Voice In The Wilderness.
From Voice in the Wilderness.
This will be my last post for today
and tomorrow. I will be taking the day
off to be with family. Hope you like
this from RJ Moeller! Here is a teaser
from the the article.
Hope you all have a very grand
THANKSGIVING.
A Huge thanks to all the troops who are
fighting to keep us free. Remember,
FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE!
An Open Letter Teaching Liberal Democrats How to be Thankful (even in a world with Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and Dick Cheney still living in it)
by:R.J. Moeller
Dear Madame Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid,
First of all, let me say right off the bat that I am a huge fan of you both. For the sake of full disclosure though I must admit that last year at this time, I was dismayed and disheartened at the prospects of your Party having further solidified its control of my Congress. While I should have known better than to worry about your capabilities (or lack thereof), it has been a not-so-pleasant “surprise” to watch each of you run your respective houses of government into the proverbial ground.
Therefore, I wanted to begin this potentially friendly letter by thanking you both for exhibiting the lack-of-courageous-leadership required to land your approval ratings in the “teens” (the lowest ever recorded and almost exactly half of what President Bush’s were when he left office). Both you Mrs. Pelosi in the House, and you Mr. Reid in the Senate, are that rare blend of political leader who can combine support for wildly unpopular pieces of legislation with an utter indifference to corruption, and still shows up to any and every press conference ready to deflect all pertinent questions with an other-worldly, Botox-induced “smile.”
You can read the rest by following the
link here:
http://rjmoeller.com/2009/11/a-public-service-announcement-for-harry-reid-and-nancy-pelosi/
This will be my last post for today
and tomorrow. I will be taking the day
off to be with family. Hope you like
this from RJ Moeller! Here is a teaser
from the the article.
Hope you all have a very grand
THANKSGIVING.
A Huge thanks to all the troops who are
fighting to keep us free. Remember,
FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE!

An Open Letter Teaching Liberal Democrats How to be Thankful (even in a world with Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and Dick Cheney still living in it)
by:R.J. Moeller
Dear Madame Speaker Pelosi and Senator Reid,
First of all, let me say right off the bat that I am a huge fan of you both. For the sake of full disclosure though I must admit that last year at this time, I was dismayed and disheartened at the prospects of your Party having further solidified its control of my Congress. While I should have known better than to worry about your capabilities (or lack thereof), it has been a not-so-pleasant “surprise” to watch each of you run your respective houses of government into the proverbial ground.
Therefore, I wanted to begin this potentially friendly letter by thanking you both for exhibiting the lack-of-courageous-leadership required to land your approval ratings in the “teens” (the lowest ever recorded and almost exactly half of what President Bush’s were when he left office). Both you Mrs. Pelosi in the House, and you Mr. Reid in the Senate, are that rare blend of political leader who can combine support for wildly unpopular pieces of legislation with an utter indifference to corruption, and still shows up to any and every press conference ready to deflect all pertinent questions with an other-worldly, Botox-induced “smile.”
The only thing he has given the American people!
You can read the rest by following the
link here:
http://rjmoeller.com/2009/11/a-public-service-announcement-for-harry-reid-and-nancy-pelosi/
Democrats pass Obamacare to 'open' debate. Yeah, sure they will.
American Thinker Blog: Healthcare disaster looms
The trolls in D.C. passed
Obamacare yesterday. We
should be weeping with
anger at our elected officials
who will continue to be hooked
into voting for such a horrendous
bill as this health care bill.
November 21, 2009
Healthcare disaster looms
James Simpson
This Congress is beneath contempt. What they are poised to pass today -- yes I know this is just a procedural vote, but everything turns on it -- is an abomination. Since Lincoln and Landrieu have been bought off it is now sure to pass. Landrieu's vote will cost the taxpayers $100 million. I wonder what we paid Lincoln to betray us? This bill will not merely ruin our healthcare system; it will impose economy-crushing taxes, pushing our already tottering economy ever closer to the abyss.
No surprise there. Candidate Obama said that since we are only 4 percent of the world population, we couldn't go on consuming 25 percent of the world's resources. It's not fair. In his worldview we should only be consuming, what, 4 percent? In his mind we are confiscating resources and need to give them back.
How stupid can a person be? It is not a zero sum game! We don't consume 25 percent of the world's resources; we trade 25 percent of the world's resources, (if that figure is even correct. I suspect it is high. But some on the left claim 40, 50, even 75 percent - they are delusional.) In any event, the world should be glad we are here, for we are the world's consumer market. We support the world economy. Without that support the world will plunge into a depression that will make 1933 look like a walk in the park! A good, brief explanation of why that is, here.
As it is, taxes proposed to pay for this bill will be onerous, but at $849 billion over ten years, the bill radically underestimates cost. The Senate Budget Committee estimated the true cost at $2.5 trillion. But even this is a vast underestimate because they implicitly assume the legislation will remain unchanged. This will not happen. It has never, ever happened! After the bill passes, Congress will add all kinds of bells and whistles, and will add more "fixes" as the problems created by the new programs begin to manifest themselves. So think of the Senate Budget Committee's $2.5 trillion 10 year cost as a bare bones, no further changes, minimum.
Medicare provides a good example. From a modest $16 billion spending in its first year, Medicare increased 231% over the next nine years, an average annual program growth of 12.72%. This is after correcting for inflation! I do not believe this new bill even factors in inflation over the 10-year period. If you look at Medicare from its first year to the tenth w/o correcting for inflation, it grew 434% or 18.24% per year! These data are derived from program outlay figures provided by the White House Office of Management and Budget - unassailable.
Here is another way to look at it. Medicare and Medicaid together cost $656 billion in 2008, the last year for which actual data are available. The total number of people enrolled in these two programs is about 88 million people -- yes that's right folks we are paying medical bills for approximately thirty percent of the population already! This comes out to about $7,500 per enrollee per year.
This bill is going to generously allow us to pay for 47 million more. Forget about denying illegals, they will be covered in this legislation. Don't believe a word about "cost savings." It is not going to happen, even if they do start euthanizing granny. Medicare and Medicaid currently squeeze everything they can out of the medical profession and their cost cutting measures are already creating supply shortages. So consider $7,500 a reasonable estimate of per capita cost. Assuming this same average cost for all these new folks gets us an annual price tag of about $350 billion, ($7,500 x 47 million) or a ten year cost of $3.5 trillion.
Now, Congress has never in the history of major legislation, ever left it alone once passed. It will explode just like Medicare and Medicaid have throughout their entire existence - and Congress gave us the exact same phony promises back when these programs were first proposed. So take the $3.5 trillion and multiply it by a factor of 3, i.e. $10 trillion, or an average annual cost of $1 trillion, and you are probably closer to a realistic minimum cost figure.
This bill is a five-alarm fire that will consume our nation if it passes
There are two traitors: Landriue
and Lincoln. This paves the way to
debate the bill. We have seen how the
demosocialistacrats debate bills. They
lock out those who disagree or dissent
against such highway robbery as this
bill is, and will be.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/healthcare_disaster_looms.html
The trolls in D.C. passed
Obamacare yesterday. We
should be weeping with
anger at our elected officials
who will continue to be hooked
into voting for such a horrendous
bill as this health care bill.
Dear Leader of the the back stabbers from
the left.
November 21, 2009
Healthcare disaster looms
James Simpson
This Congress is beneath contempt. What they are poised to pass today -- yes I know this is just a procedural vote, but everything turns on it -- is an abomination. Since Lincoln and Landrieu have been bought off it is now sure to pass. Landrieu's vote will cost the taxpayers $100 million. I wonder what we paid Lincoln to betray us? This bill will not merely ruin our healthcare system; it will impose economy-crushing taxes, pushing our already tottering economy ever closer to the abyss.
No surprise there. Candidate Obama said that since we are only 4 percent of the world population, we couldn't go on consuming 25 percent of the world's resources. It's not fair. In his worldview we should only be consuming, what, 4 percent? In his mind we are confiscating resources and need to give them back.
How stupid can a person be? It is not a zero sum game! We don't consume 25 percent of the world's resources; we trade 25 percent of the world's resources, (if that figure is even correct. I suspect it is high. But some on the left claim 40, 50, even 75 percent - they are delusional.) In any event, the world should be glad we are here, for we are the world's consumer market. We support the world economy. Without that support the world will plunge into a depression that will make 1933 look like a walk in the park! A good, brief explanation of why that is, here.
As it is, taxes proposed to pay for this bill will be onerous, but at $849 billion over ten years, the bill radically underestimates cost. The Senate Budget Committee estimated the true cost at $2.5 trillion. But even this is a vast underestimate because they implicitly assume the legislation will remain unchanged. This will not happen. It has never, ever happened! After the bill passes, Congress will add all kinds of bells and whistles, and will add more "fixes" as the problems created by the new programs begin to manifest themselves. So think of the Senate Budget Committee's $2.5 trillion 10 year cost as a bare bones, no further changes, minimum.
Medicare provides a good example. From a modest $16 billion spending in its first year, Medicare increased 231% over the next nine years, an average annual program growth of 12.72%. This is after correcting for inflation! I do not believe this new bill even factors in inflation over the 10-year period. If you look at Medicare from its first year to the tenth w/o correcting for inflation, it grew 434% or 18.24% per year! These data are derived from program outlay figures provided by the White House Office of Management and Budget - unassailable.
Here is another way to look at it. Medicare and Medicaid together cost $656 billion in 2008, the last year for which actual data are available. The total number of people enrolled in these two programs is about 88 million people -- yes that's right folks we are paying medical bills for approximately thirty percent of the population already! This comes out to about $7,500 per enrollee per year.
This bill is going to generously allow us to pay for 47 million more. Forget about denying illegals, they will be covered in this legislation. Don't believe a word about "cost savings." It is not going to happen, even if they do start euthanizing granny. Medicare and Medicaid currently squeeze everything they can out of the medical profession and their cost cutting measures are already creating supply shortages. So consider $7,500 a reasonable estimate of per capita cost. Assuming this same average cost for all these new folks gets us an annual price tag of about $350 billion, ($7,500 x 47 million) or a ten year cost of $3.5 trillion.
Now, Congress has never in the history of major legislation, ever left it alone once passed. It will explode just like Medicare and Medicaid have throughout their entire existence - and Congress gave us the exact same phony promises back when these programs were first proposed. So take the $3.5 trillion and multiply it by a factor of 3, i.e. $10 trillion, or an average annual cost of $1 trillion, and you are probably closer to a realistic minimum cost figure.
This bill is a five-alarm fire that will consume our nation if it passes
There are two traitors: Landriue
and Lincoln. This paves the way to
debate the bill. We have seen how the
demosocialistacrats debate bills. They
lock out those who disagree or dissent
against such highway robbery as this
bill is, and will be.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/11/healthcare_disaster_looms.html
No, this will hurt the American people
alot. But how would this asshat
pinko understand
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