Many of you have read and heard about the 'Middle Eastern Festival' in Dearbornistan, Michigan. Dearbornistan is home to one of the largest populations of Muslims in the United States. I recently sent an email to the mayor's office about this so called 'festival' and the problems that Islam and Muslims will and are causing in his fair city. In typical islamist fashion, this is the letter I got in return to my email. This was a response that was sent to many people in defense of the 'festival.' Read it and draw your own conclusions. The Mayor is quite ignorant of Islam and sharia law and he has been eating up the 'taqiyya' as a good little dhimmi stooge should. Knowing your enemy is the first step in defeating them. No wonder the Muslims like it in Dearbornsitan so much. The response is quite long so it will be the main post for the night. Might be a couple of others, we will see. I asked the mayor in my email if Jews were at the festival and asked for a specific response to that question. Notice that the response just states all faiths from Dearbronistan. In fairness to the Mayor, some of what he is stating may be true but what is quite obvious here is that when Muslims behave badly in public, hardly anything is ever said about it, or done about it. Let a few Christians go to an 'Arab Festival' in a pretty peaceful way and ask a few questions, they get treated badly by the followers of Islam and the city of Dearbornistan. The vidoes I have watched by the Acts 17 Apologetics show a very different story. This was an Islamic taqiyya festival at best. This is Islam whitewashed, once again. The good mayor does not see that the qur'an, Islam and those who follow it infringe on people's rights, liberty, freedom. He does not understand that Islam is a cradel to grave ideology. It is NOT a religion. Here is the original post about the 'Arab festival': Dearbotrn, Dearbornistan, Dearborn Arabia.
Please consider the following before condemning us
The City of Dearborn has been under attack for several years by a group identifying themselves as Acts 17 Apologetics. They arrive in Dearborn with the intent to disrupt a local cultural festival and misrepresent facts in order to further their mission of raising funds through emotional response. The funds they raise are then used to finance travel and cameras to disrupt other events in other cities. In our case, the targeted event is not about the Muslim faith or its believers. It is a Middle Eastern cultural festival sponsored by a Chamber of Commerce and a local charitable service organization. Neither of these two entities have a religious alignment.
Like events in cities all over our nation, this festival has a variety of entertainment and interests, including rides, games, performances, foods, souvenirs, and community information. Also like other events, it relies on sponsorships and fees to cover its costs. Large tents are set up to house organizations and businesses that want to have access to the thousands of people attending this event. These groups pay a modest fee for the privilege and are allowed to carry out their activity in an assigned space within the tents. There is no restriction placed on any lawful activity carried out in this manner, including preaching the word of God. This past year, five Christian organizations and two Muslim organizations chose this lawful method of reaching the attendees. This is similar to past years and there has never been a problem or controversy about this type of preaching or religious engagement. The total number of table vendors at the festival exceeds eighty, so these seven faith-based groups represent a relatively small aspect of the festival.
In all the materials released by Acts 17 Apologetics they have failed to mention this manner of preaching and evidencing the teaching of Jesus Christ, even though they have been offered the same opportunity each year. In addition to the booths, we have a free speech zone at the festival for those that want free access to the festival to promote their message. This space was utilized this past year by two different Christian groups who were allowed to preach and proselytize the entire weekend without any interference. Acts 17 Apologetics did not mention this either, even though they were within 30 feet of this space when they pretended to be arrested. Yes, I said pretended to be arrested. In a video they have posted on their website, they are standing near the Ferris wheel when some police officers approached them on Saturday, June 19. They lead you to believe that they were arrested shortly thereafter for passing out Christian flyers. Although they were temporarily detained for violating the festival rules regarding the location of the distribution of literature, they were not arrested on that day. And they were never arrested for passing out flyers.
On Friday, June 18, they behaved very differently than what you saw on film from Saturday, June 19. They were not handing out flyers but were aggressively engaging passers-by in confrontational debate when they were arrested and cited for Breach of the Peace and Failure to Obey the Lawful Order of a Police Officer. See www.cityofdearborn.org for more details. Acts 17 always retained the right to carry out their activities in a lawful manner at the festival. The video taken on Saturday illustrates that the group returned to the festival after the four arrests on Friday.
Acts 17 Apologetics has been at the Arab Festival in past years and is well aware of the written policy with regard to crowd control. They are also aware of a federal court decision in favor of the Dearborn policy of controlled access to the festival site. This is standard practice at events all over the country. A site is identified and authorized by the government entity as a special event site. In the case of the Arab Festival, it is a number of commercial blocks between the rear alley accesses behind the
businesses on either side of the commercial road. Despite knowing this, Acts 17 Apologetics lead the viewers of the distorted video to believe that they are on public sidewalks. For the duration of the three-day event, the public sidewalks in front of the stores and businesses in the event district are no longer “public” in terms of the application of the First Amendment. They are in an area controlled to protect public safety during the event because of the extreme number of people occupying a space that was never intended to support that much activity. This practice has been upheld by the Supreme Court in “Hefron vs. International Society for Krishna Consciousness” http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0452_0640_ZS.html
And that is what the Federal Court upheld in June.
http://www.cityofdearborn.org/images/stories/PDF/fedcourtopinion.pdf
The court decisions protect every community that must balance personal freedom with the need to provide public safety during an unusual situation. At the time he was arrested on Friday, June 18, Mr. Wood had gathered a large crowd around him, blocking a key access point between the tents. The crowd was forced to grow bigger solely because people could not pass. Those who created this public danger did so with the knowledge that they were violating the laws because they wanted to be arrested while their cohorts were actively recording the event for posting on the web. They knew that they could inflame the passions of viewers who would be taken in by their misrepresentation of what was really going on. They have even found media that would put them on air to repeat these inaccurate representations without seeking information or the truth from others.
It makes a good news story to say that a community is infringing on peoples’ rights especially when it is couched in the true bias of generating negative feelings about another religion. The real violation of First Amendment rights occurs with Acts 17 Apologetics trying to imply they were the victim when the real violation is their attack on the City of Dearborn for having tolerance for all religions including believers in the Koran.
Dearborn is a true American City that welcomes everyone in the full spirit of our great constitution. We are a community of faith that is dedicated to the welfare of everyone whether resident or guest. These gross misrepresentations have caused us to come together in a stronger way. Almost a year ago, after earlier attacks by Acts 17 Apologetics on Dearborn, I hosted a meeting with the Dearborn Area Ministerial Association (DAMA), a group of mostly Christian religious leaders, but inclusive of all faiths in Dearborn. I asked them to review the video from the 2009 festival, examine the facts and measure the impact on our community. The discussion was frank and sincere. After that meeting with DAMA, a separate group of Dearborn Christian evangelical ministers released a written criticism of the actions and misrepresentations of Acts 17 Apologetics. http://www.fairlanealliance.org/downloads/letter_concerning_acts_17.pdf
They released their statement only after trying to contact Acts 17 Apologetics to engage them in a discussion of how to achieve the goal of converting others to Christ. They were unsuccessful in getting a response from Acts 17. The truth is Christian evangelists are active at the Arab Festival. They participate in lawful ways. While many are local, some, like world renowned minister and author Josh McDowell, come to the festival because it offers a large number of people who can be engaged in the message of the New Testament. He and the other evangelists followed the rules and have been successful in achieving their goals. Mr. McDowell posted positive recordings of his experience at the festival in 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIH1F7KGWnY
and 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzh3MYv1L4A .
These videos provide a sharp contrast to the recordings of Acts 17 Apologetics and, better yet, they have only truth as their motive. Dearborn is not your enemy nor are the people who live here. People who would promote hatred and lies to get others to act in ways that are contrary to what America stands for are the real enemy for all lovers of our country. History is full of horrific events that were manufactured by lies to get good people to act purely emotionally to achieve the deceiver’s ends. We hope that you will choose to become informed and avoid being taken in by people that have yet to share true faith with anyone in Dearborn.
Sincerely,
Mayor John B. O’Reilly Jr.
City of Dearborn
http://www.cityofdearborn.org/images/stories/PDF/Government/Mayor/mayorletter07-09-2010.pdf
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The Mayor of Dearbornistan, Michigan responds to my and many others emails.
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By Shoaib Choudhury
Despite series of protests, Kuwait-born Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf is silently getting set in erecting the ‘Tower of Terror’ under the garb of a mosque at Ground Zero site in New York City in United States. The prospective developer of the US$ 100 million 13-story mosque, which will be located just 600 feet from the Ground Zero, projects himself as a moderate Muslim. But, it is recorded that, Faisal Abdul Rauf inherits the notion of Muslim Brotherhood from his father, Dr. Mohammed Abdul Rauf [1917-2004], an Egyptian contemporary of Muslim brotherhood founder Hassan Al-Banna. Dr. Rauf conveyed to his family a long tradition of radicalism which he acquired at Islam’s closest equivalent to Vatican, Al Azhar University in Cairo.
Imam Abdul Rauf, the man behind this controversial mosque is a prominent member of a group that helped sponsor the pro-Palestinian activists who clashed violently with Israeli commandos at sea several weeks back. Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf is a key figure in Malaysia based Perdana Global Peace Organization. Perdana is the single biggest donor [US$ 366,000] so far to the Free Gaza Movement, a key organization of the six-ship flotilla that tried to break into Israel’s blockade of the Hamas-run Gaza strip.
In the ultimate act of Islamic conquest and callous insensitivity to the victims' families and all Americans who were attacked by Islamic jihad on 9/11/01, the Free Gaza, Jew-killing supporting Imam and his Islamic supremacist wife are ignoring the pleas and cries from millions of Americans, and intend to build their Islamic supremacist mosque. The imam, at Friday prayers two weeks ago, said he didn't understand the hostility of the opposition to the monster mosque, especially since our "children and our grandchildren would be Muslim."
These pro-Jihadist Imam and his deceitful wife speak of "building bridges" and "outreach," yet completely ignore the pain and the pleas of patriots and Americans asking them to stop this divisiveness, this insult, this slap on the national face America.
Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf refuses to describe notorious terrorist group Hamas as a terrorist organization, though according to US State Department’s assessment, "Hamas terrorists, especially those in the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, have conducted many attacks, including large-scale suicide bombings, against Israeli civilian and military targets."
Walid Shoebat, an Arabic speaker who says he found an Arabic-language interview in which Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf to make a statement about religious tolerance and reconciliation, and to spite radical Islam - advocates turning America into an Islamic state.
Recently - in fact on May 26 2010, one day after his Daily News column - Abdul Rauf appeared on the popular Islamic website Hadiyul-Islam with even more disturbing opinions. That's the same website where, ironically enough, a fatwa was simultaneously being issued forbidding a Muslim to sell land to a Christian, because the Christian wanted to build a church on it.
In his interview on Hadiyul-Islam by Sa'da Abdul Maksoud, Abdul Rauf was asked his views on Sharia [Islamic religious law] and the Islamic state. He responded:
Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern. It is known that there are sets of standards that are accepted by [Muslim] scholars to organize the relationships between government and the governed.
When questioned about this, Abdul Rauf continued: "Current governments are unjust and do not follow Islamic laws." He added:
New laws were permitted after the death of Muhammad, so long of course that these laws do not contradict the Quran or the Deeds of Muhammad ... so they create institutions that assure no conflicts with Sharia.
In yet plainer English, forget the separation of church and state. Abdul Rauf's goal is the imposition of Shariah law - in every country, even democratic ones like the U.S.
Imam Rauf is dreaming to construct this mosque with his ultimate goal of Islamizing America. But, he possibly forgets one point. When Americans are attacked, they come together as one, under one flag, under one law against a common enemy that they are not afraid to identify. Religious freedom is central to America as a nation - and that is why the location of this project is so misguided. Ground Zero is purely about being American. And, there is no room for anyone to let this sentiment be anyway ignored by anyone.
I precisely understand the reason behind such huge flow of fund for this Tower of Terrorism at Ground Zero site. Many of the radical Muslim nations in the world are willing to give a ‘proper lesson’ to Americans by planting a so-called mosque at the very wound of those family members of the martyrs as well as patriotic Americans.
Secondly this very mosque, like many other large mosques and so-called community mosques in United States will turn into epicenter of Tablighi Jamaat activities. It is well documented that, Tablighi Jamaat preaches Jihad and encourages deceitful conversion of non-Muslims to Islam. Due to decade-long activities of Tablighi Jamaat in Bangladesh, the percentage of religious minorities, including Hundus, Christians and Buddhists are on fast decline. It is feared that, if Tablighis will be able to continue its activities inside Bangladesh for another decade, the country may witness a complete elimination of religious minorities from its population.
While Tablighis are actively working inside United States for Islamizing America, rogue Islamists like Abdul Rauf are not sitting silent. This man is moving ahead with his agenda of constructing the mosque at Ground Zero. Americans need to wake up now. Because, their silence will put America into further risk.
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Video of Christians getting arrested in Dearbornistan
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Just in case you have not watched this video of the Christian folks getting arrested and thrown out of an Arab festival in Dearbornistan, Michigan. Also watch the video from the same festival from last year, 2009.
2010 Festival in Dearbornistan
2009 Festival: Note the way the Muslims lie about waht really happened.
2010 Festival in Dearbornistan
2009 Festival: Note the way the Muslims lie about waht really happened.
Christians pray under gunfire while worshipping in Somalia
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Here we go again as more people have been killed in Somalia as Christians were celebrating Pentacost. The battle for Somalia between the government, insurgent group al-Shabab, advanced on the presidential palace overnight, but were stopped by government troops and African Union peacekeepers, according to BosNewsLife. How much longer will the fragile, barely functiong government hold out against repeated attacks from Islamic terror groups like al-shabab? Will it really matter as both sides are intolerant of Christians. The current president of Soamlia, Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed is not fond of Christians and favors the extremely oppressive shariah law. Anything but Islam and shariah law are considered barbaric and unacceptable to all islamic groups in Somlia. I look for much more bloodshed and more deaths of Christians living in hell, I mean Soamlia.
Somalia Christians observe Pentecost amid gunfire, 14 deaths
Undergroundsite.com: Somalia’s minority Christians still observed Pentecost, despite a spray of gunfire between pro-government troops and Muslim militants causing 14 deaths.
The engagement occurred as the insurgent group al-Shabab advanced on the presidential palace overnight, but were stopped by government troops and African Union peacekeepers, according to BosNewsLife.
Somalia’s frail government faces unrest from two insurgent groups, al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam. Although the two latter groups agree that they want a more strict Islamic state, they are also fighting each other, aside from both groups fighting the government.
As of now, much of central and southern Somalia and large parts of Mogadishu are under the control of insurgents. The Sharif government controls small areas around the airport, seaport and presidential palace, with the help of African Union troops, BosNewsLife reported.
The Sharif government also struggles with internal conflict. Last week President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed tried to fire the prime minister, but backed down this week, stating that he recognized the method of the firing was unconstitutional, according to BosNewsLife.
Both the Sharif government and the two warring insurgent factions would like to obliterate the Christians. While the president proclaims himself a moderate, he embraces a sharia, or Islamic law, that mandates the death penalty for those who leave Islam, BosNewsLife reported.
On the other hand, both Al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam would like to rid Somalia of Christianity, and all non-Islamic culture, which they describe as barbaric. It is believed that there are 1,000 Christians in Somalia, BosNewsLife said.
Al-Shabab recently shot and killed Christian leader Yusuf Ali Nur, 57 whom they suspected of being a Christian. Nur was killed in Xarardheere, a small town 37 miles from the regional capital Jowhar. Nur left behind a wife and three children, aged 11, 9 and 7, according to BosNewsLife.
Al-Shabab had also, before then, shot and killed Christian Mu’awiye Hilowle Ali in front of his house in the town of Afgoye, some 15 miles west of the capital Mogadishu. Ali is survived by a wife and ten children, BosNewsLife said.
Over a dozen Christians are known to have been killed by militants within a year, according to Christian advocacy groups. This troubled country has also seen tens of thousands of people killed in war, and over a million displaced in what aid groups call the most dire humanitarian situation in the world, BosNewsLife reported.
The president has met with the international community at a United Nations backed conference in Istanbul, Turkey, to shore up worldwide support for his fragile government, according to BosNewsLife.
On Saturday, May 22, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon reportedly said that international support for the government is “the only way” to stabilize Somalia, which has not had a stable central government in nearly 20 years, BosNewsLife reported.
Somali pirates have earned well deserved notoriety for regularly attacking international ships, kidnapping their seamen and demanding ransom.
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Somalia Christians observe Pentecost amid gunfire, 14 deaths
Undergroundsite.com: Somalia’s minority Christians still observed Pentecost, despite a spray of gunfire between pro-government troops and Muslim militants causing 14 deaths.
The engagement occurred as the insurgent group al-Shabab advanced on the presidential palace overnight, but were stopped by government troops and African Union peacekeepers, according to BosNewsLife.
Somalia’s frail government faces unrest from two insurgent groups, al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam. Although the two latter groups agree that they want a more strict Islamic state, they are also fighting each other, aside from both groups fighting the government.
As of now, much of central and southern Somalia and large parts of Mogadishu are under the control of insurgents. The Sharif government controls small areas around the airport, seaport and presidential palace, with the help of African Union troops, BosNewsLife reported.
The Sharif government also struggles with internal conflict. Last week President Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed tried to fire the prime minister, but backed down this week, stating that he recognized the method of the firing was unconstitutional, according to BosNewsLife.
Both the Sharif government and the two warring insurgent factions would like to obliterate the Christians. While the president proclaims himself a moderate, he embraces a sharia, or Islamic law, that mandates the death penalty for those who leave Islam, BosNewsLife reported.
On the other hand, both Al-Shabab and Hizbul Islam would like to rid Somalia of Christianity, and all non-Islamic culture, which they describe as barbaric. It is believed that there are 1,000 Christians in Somalia, BosNewsLife said.
Al-Shabab recently shot and killed Christian leader Yusuf Ali Nur, 57 whom they suspected of being a Christian. Nur was killed in Xarardheere, a small town 37 miles from the regional capital Jowhar. Nur left behind a wife and three children, aged 11, 9 and 7, according to BosNewsLife.
Al-Shabab had also, before then, shot and killed Christian Mu’awiye Hilowle Ali in front of his house in the town of Afgoye, some 15 miles west of the capital Mogadishu. Ali is survived by a wife and ten children, BosNewsLife said.
Over a dozen Christians are known to have been killed by militants within a year, according to Christian advocacy groups. This troubled country has also seen tens of thousands of people killed in war, and over a million displaced in what aid groups call the most dire humanitarian situation in the world, BosNewsLife reported.
The president has met with the international community at a United Nations backed conference in Istanbul, Turkey, to shore up worldwide support for his fragile government, according to BosNewsLife.
On Saturday, May 22, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon reportedly said that international support for the government is “the only way” to stabilize Somalia, which has not had a stable central government in nearly 20 years, BosNewsLife reported.
Somali pirates have earned well deserved notoriety for regularly attacking international ships, kidnapping their seamen and demanding ransom.
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Torture, Islam and why it is all right within Islam and many Muslims
This is the latest from Traveler. I am playing a bit of catching up as I only have one computer right now as the other is getting a solid beating from our computer wizard here in town. If you need some more proof that torture is 'acceptable' in Islam, here it is. Backed by the Qur'an, torture is never out of style nor is it in danger of disappearing from being used within Islam.
Torture and Islam
By Traveler
♦ Islam is not fundamentally opposed to torture in certain circumstances, as long as it is the Muslim party applying it.
♦ The Qur'an:
Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides..."
Qur'an (8:12) - "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them."
Qur'an (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
How Allah feels about non-Muslims naturally determines the attitude of devout Muslims. In the Qur'an, Muhammad explicitly uses Allah's hatred of unbelievers to motivate his people to Jihad:
Qur'an (9:73): "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."
♦ From the Hadith:
Muslim (16:4131) - They were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. Muhammad had two killers put to death, not in the way of "an eye-for-an-eye," but in a more agonizing manner.
Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses that he has adultery (four times, as required). Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.
Bukhari (11:626) - "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.'
The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'" Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.
Ibn Ishaq 436 - When Muhammad wished to attack the Meccan army at Badr, his men captured two slaves who were carrying water for the caravans and brought them into his presence.
They were interrogated under torture as Muhammad stood praying: “…they brought them along and questioned them while the apostle was standing praying… The people were dismayed at their report…and so they beat them. When they were beaten soundly…"
Ibn Ishaq 734 - When Muhammad’s favorite wife Aisha was accused of adultery, he launched an investigation that included the brutal interrogation of a female slave: "So the apostle called Burayra to ask her, and Ali got up and gave her a violent beating, saying “'Tell the Apostle the truth.'”
Ibn Ishaq 595 - Muhammad orders that a man have his tongue cut out.
Ibn Ishaq 764 - After amassing a powerful army, Muhammad sent his forces to take the peaceful farming community of Khaybar by surprise. In the aftermath, he was dissatisfied with the amount of plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer, Kinana, might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:
When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.”
Kinana's untimely death left a beautiful young widow named Saffiya, whom Muhammad then able to “married”.
Abu Dawud (10:294) - In addition to the right of men to beat their wives over disobedience, children are to be beaten as well if they don't pray. "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then beat him for prayer."
♦ The life of Muhammad teaches that torture is sanctioned in cases of interrogation. The prophet of Islam did not stop his people from beating and abusing individuals in his presence when information was needed, whether it concerned a matter of sexual impropriety or the location of wealth that could be looted.
In at least one case of the latter, he is noted to have directly ordered the torture.
Torture is also allowed when putting people to death. Rather than prescribing quick execution of captives, there were times in which Muhammad ordered his men to make a victim's death as slow and agonizing as possible.
In one case, Muhammad's men literally pulled apart the body of an elderly woman named Umm Qirfa by tying her limbs to camels then sent in opposite directions (Ibn Ishaq 980).
♦ One of the most influential Shi'a religious leaders in Iran recently extended the validity of torture to the practice of rape of prisoners, as long as it is in defense of Islam. Mesbah-Yazdi said that it was advisable for the rapist to "perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner."
Mesbah-Yazdi went on to add that "If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."
According to the cleric, "If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus." When asked if the rape of men and young boy was considered sodomy, he said, "No, because it is not consensual."
♦ Muslim apologists often tell a different story in the West, where general phrases are designed to strategically project the impression that they oppose torture in and of itself, thus attracting the support of a broader coalition. (CAIR's short-lived 2006 "Campaign against Torture" is one of the best examples of this). The scope of their efforts, however, rarely extend beyond condemning Western countries in general (and the US in particular).
Sympathies are also tellingly limited to the alleged treatment of Muslim terror detainees.
In fact, these organizations have very little to say about ending the less ambiguous and far more brutal human rights violations practised by Muslim governments, even though the victims there are usually Muslim as well (such as the cleric Mesbah-Yazdi's unfortunate victims of rape).
The goal of these "anti-torture" campaigns is not an end to torture, but rather an attempt to capture the moral high ground on a controversial issue by exploiting Western attitudes - with no regard for the victims of true torture.
♦ Two high profile stories:
* April 2004: Muslim seminary students in Pakistan tortured a Christian man, 19-year-old Javaid Anjum, for five days and nights to force him to convert to Islam. They had falsely accused Javaid of stealing their water pump. His captors dumped his totured body outside of the local police station.
Javaid died in the hospital shortly after 2 a.m. on May 2, 2004.
(I have deliberately omitted his horrific autopsy report- Vin).
* January 20th 2006: A Parisian Jew named Ilan Halimi.was lured to a nearby apartment block by a 17 year old girl. Once inside he was set upon by a gang of men and tortured for 24 days.
During that time, the captors had rung Ilans mother many times to attempt to extract a ransom from her. They would recite the Koran to her, with the sounds of her son screaming in the background.
On February 13, Ilan was found naked, tied and handcuffed to a tree near a railroad track in the Parisian outskirts, with burns from acid and flammable liquid covering 80% of his body, with multiple stab wounds, as well as with one severed ear and toe. On the way to the hospital, he died from his wounds.
Ilan had always dreamed of living in Jerusalem. Below is a very touching tribute to Ilan and his burial in Jerusalem and a very emotional speech by a Rabbi. (With subtitles).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4qbuNKuGY
Torture and Islam
By Traveler
♦ Islam is not fundamentally opposed to torture in certain circumstances, as long as it is the Muslim party applying it.
♦ The Qur'an:
Qur'an (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides..."
Qur'an (8:12) - "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their fingertips off them."
Qur'an (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"
How Allah feels about non-Muslims naturally determines the attitude of devout Muslims. In the Qur'an, Muhammad explicitly uses Allah's hatred of unbelievers to motivate his people to Jihad:
Qur'an (9:73): "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end."
♦ From the Hadith:
Muslim (16:4131) - They were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died. Muhammad had two killers put to death, not in the way of "an eye-for-an-eye," but in a more agonizing manner.
Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses that he has adultery (four times, as required). Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and was dragged back.
Bukhari (11:626) - "The Prophet said, 'No prayer is harder for the hypocrites than the Fajr and the 'Isha' prayers and if they knew the reward for these prayers at their respective times, they would certainly present themselves (in the mosques) even if they had to crawl.'
The Prophet added, 'Certainly I decided to order the Mu'adh-dhin (call-maker) to pronounce Iqama and order a man to lead the prayer and then take a fire flame to burn all those who had not left their houses so far for the prayer along with their houses.'" Muhammad orders his men to burn alive those who do not present themselves at the mosque for prayer.
Ibn Ishaq 436 - When Muhammad wished to attack the Meccan army at Badr, his men captured two slaves who were carrying water for the caravans and brought them into his presence.
They were interrogated under torture as Muhammad stood praying: “…they brought them along and questioned them while the apostle was standing praying… The people were dismayed at their report…and so they beat them. When they were beaten soundly…"
Ibn Ishaq 734 - When Muhammad’s favorite wife Aisha was accused of adultery, he launched an investigation that included the brutal interrogation of a female slave: "So the apostle called Burayra to ask her, and Ali got up and gave her a violent beating, saying “'Tell the Apostle the truth.'”
Ibn Ishaq 595 - Muhammad orders that a man have his tongue cut out.
Ibn Ishaq 764 - After amassing a powerful army, Muhammad sent his forces to take the peaceful farming community of Khaybar by surprise. In the aftermath, he was dissatisfied with the amount of plunder and felt that the town’s treasurer, Kinana, might be holding out on him. He had the man brought to him:
When he [Muhammad] asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle gave orders to al-Zubayr bin al-Awwam, “Torture him until you extract what he has.” So he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad bin Maslama and he struck off his head.”
Kinana's untimely death left a beautiful young widow named Saffiya, whom Muhammad then able to “married”.
Abu Dawud (10:294) - In addition to the right of men to beat their wives over disobedience, children are to be beaten as well if they don't pray. "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of seven years. When he becomes ten years old, then beat him for prayer."
♦ The life of Muhammad teaches that torture is sanctioned in cases of interrogation. The prophet of Islam did not stop his people from beating and abusing individuals in his presence when information was needed, whether it concerned a matter of sexual impropriety or the location of wealth that could be looted.
In at least one case of the latter, he is noted to have directly ordered the torture.
Torture is also allowed when putting people to death. Rather than prescribing quick execution of captives, there were times in which Muhammad ordered his men to make a victim's death as slow and agonizing as possible.
In one case, Muhammad's men literally pulled apart the body of an elderly woman named Umm Qirfa by tying her limbs to camels then sent in opposite directions (Ibn Ishaq 980).
♦ One of the most influential Shi'a religious leaders in Iran recently extended the validity of torture to the practice of rape of prisoners, as long as it is in defense of Islam. Mesbah-Yazdi said that it was advisable for the rapist to "perform a ritual washing first and say prayers while raping the prisoner."
Mesbah-Yazdi went on to add that "If the judgment for the [female] prisoner is execution, then rape before execution brings the interrogator a spiritual reward equivalent to making the mandated Haj pilgrimage [to Mecca], but if there is no execution decreed, then the reward would be equivalent to making a pilgrimage to [the Shi'ite holy city of] Karbala."
According to the cleric, "If the prisoner is female, it is permissible to rape through the vagina or anus." When asked if the rape of men and young boy was considered sodomy, he said, "No, because it is not consensual."
♦ Muslim apologists often tell a different story in the West, where general phrases are designed to strategically project the impression that they oppose torture in and of itself, thus attracting the support of a broader coalition. (CAIR's short-lived 2006 "Campaign against Torture" is one of the best examples of this). The scope of their efforts, however, rarely extend beyond condemning Western countries in general (and the US in particular).
Sympathies are also tellingly limited to the alleged treatment of Muslim terror detainees.
In fact, these organizations have very little to say about ending the less ambiguous and far more brutal human rights violations practised by Muslim governments, even though the victims there are usually Muslim as well (such as the cleric Mesbah-Yazdi's unfortunate victims of rape).
The goal of these "anti-torture" campaigns is not an end to torture, but rather an attempt to capture the moral high ground on a controversial issue by exploiting Western attitudes - with no regard for the victims of true torture.
♦ Two high profile stories:
* April 2004: Muslim seminary students in Pakistan tortured a Christian man, 19-year-old Javaid Anjum, for five days and nights to force him to convert to Islam. They had falsely accused Javaid of stealing their water pump. His captors dumped his totured body outside of the local police station.
Javaid died in the hospital shortly after 2 a.m. on May 2, 2004.
(I have deliberately omitted his horrific autopsy report- Vin).
* January 20th 2006: A Parisian Jew named Ilan Halimi.was lured to a nearby apartment block by a 17 year old girl. Once inside he was set upon by a gang of men and tortured for 24 days.
During that time, the captors had rung Ilans mother many times to attempt to extract a ransom from her. They would recite the Koran to her, with the sounds of her son screaming in the background.
On February 13, Ilan was found naked, tied and handcuffed to a tree near a railroad track in the Parisian outskirts, with burns from acid and flammable liquid covering 80% of his body, with multiple stab wounds, as well as with one severed ear and toe. On the way to the hospital, he died from his wounds.
Ilan had always dreamed of living in Jerusalem. Below is a very touching tribute to Ilan and his burial in Jerusalem and a very emotional speech by a Rabbi. (With subtitles).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4qbuNKuGY
Left: Ilan Halimi Right: Javaid Anjum
This from the so called 'Religion of Peace.'
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